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Old 01-23-2016, 04:31 PM
 
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When you come into the USA on a visa, you have to buy a bond (2 to 5 thousand dollars?)......you get it back when you leave. If you overstay your visa, that bond is now a bounty for your arrest.......your name goes on a list of visa-overstayers who need to be arrested. Bounty hunters and other qualified personnel would have access to this list.
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Old 01-23-2016, 06:56 PM
 
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That doesn't answer the 'how' - someone comes into the UK, how are they tracked and caught?
They log them into the computer and catch them when they try to leave.

Look most countries don't have this issue at all. It is certainly easy to manage.
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Old 01-23-2016, 08:42 PM
 
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They log them into the computer and catch them when they try to leave.

Look most countries don't have this issue at all. It is certainly easy to manage.
but if they don't leave? - which is the original question posed
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Old 01-23-2016, 09:10 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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We have a tax agency tracking upwards of 300 million. We have a prison system tracking untold numbers. We have a DOT system geared to track 500 million automobiles. We have library systems that track billions of books. We have air traffic systems that track millions of flights AND the luggage for the customers.

And no system to track visa card holders. I guarantee every one of those people use the above systems every day of their lives.

It's not a matter of can't.....it's a matter of WON'T.
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Old 01-23-2016, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Pretty much every other country is doing it so how is that "almost impossible?"
Prove this, please.
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Old 01-23-2016, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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75 million legally enter the US each year for purposes to tourism, business and education. Short of an ankle bracelet there is no practical way to track them.

Millions of US jobs are dependent on international tourism.
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Old 01-23-2016, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Can you name any of these countries? North Korea probably does it by following every person, being from the UK I'm not aware of any tracking we do
North Korea recieves about 100,000 annual tourists, mostly Chinese.
Chinese tourism to North Korea is off by 70%.

North Korea requires all tourists to be a part of an approved accompanied tour group. Independent travel is not allowed. There is no freedom to travel within North Korea.
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Old 01-23-2016, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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That doesn't answer the 'how' - someone comes into the UK, how are they tracked and caught?
Foreign visitors to the UK have complete freedom to travel and are not tracked.

No different than most places, someone who overstayed their visa will be detained at the point of departure.
Length of overstay typically determines the consequences.
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Old 01-23-2016, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Some countries impose stiff penalties for over stay. Hit them in the wallet hard enough and most will make sure to leave rather than face the huge fines.
Consequence depends on the length of the overstay.
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Old 01-23-2016, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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When you come into the USA on a visa, you have to buy a bond (2 to 5 thousand dollars?)......you get it back when you leave. If you overstay your visa, that bond is now a bounty for your arrest.......your name goes on a list of visa-overstayers who need to be arrested. Bounty hunters and other qualified personnel would have access to this list.
Is this your perception of something that exists or a suggestion how to handle overstayers?

The US visa costs $160. Requiring foreign tourists, business people and tourists to pop $ thousands for a bond would put a serious dent in US tourism/ hospitality which employs million of US people.

Foreign visitors to the US enjoy the freedom to travel throughout the US and they do.

Those intent on remaining in the US blend in and disappear into the background and are not easily detectable, unless they engage in criminal activity beyond overstaying their visa.
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