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Making that illegal would be able to prevent that!
I am not really sure, but I do believe that private ownership the necessary materials to construct a nuclear weapon is already illegal. Plus the fact that improper handling of the fissionable material will KILL the handler!
Possession of the completed weapon is probably also illegal.
It does bring up an interesting point though. "That is illegal!"
Oh, yeah, that works...
"Straw purchases" of firearms is illegal. Certain modifications of AR style weapons are illegal. Background checks are required by law in all FFL sales.
Yet, the weapons used by the CA shooters were bought for them by a friend (straw purchase, background check completed), and had illegal modifications done to them. I understand the handguns found were purchased legally from a FFL dealer, with background checks. Manufacturing pipe bombs is illegal, yet completed bombs and materials for manufacturing more were found in their garage.
These people have no respect for the law, and the laws we have are not being effectively enforced, so the answer is simple: WE NEED ANOTHER LAW!
Sorry, the logic escapes me...
I am not really sure, but I do believe that private ownership the necessary materials to construct a nuclear weapon is already illegal. Plus the fact that improper handling of the fissionable material will KILL the handler!
Possession of the completed weapon is probably also illegal.
It does bring up an interesting point though. "That is illegal!"
Oh, yeah, that works...
"Straw purchases" of firearms is illegal. Certain modifications of AR style weapons are illegal. Background checks are required by law in all FFL sales.
Yet, the weapons used by the CA shooters were bought for them by a friend (straw purchase, background check completed), and had illegal modifications done to them. I understand the handguns found were purchased legally from a FFL dealer, with background checks. Manufacturing pipe bombs is illegal, yet completed bombs and materials for manufacturing more were found in their garage.
These people have no respect for the law, and the laws we have are not being effectively enforced, so the answer is simple: WE NEED ANOTHER LAW! Sorry, the logic escapes me...
You can't reason with illogical people. I think the irrational "we need more gun laws!" types have a hard time dealing with this, and think that somehow turns the rest of us into anarchists. Like making illegal things "illegaler" makes sense.
Making that illegal would be able to prevent that!
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Originally Posted by Redraven
I am not really sure, but I do believe that private ownership the necessary materials to construct a nuclear weapon is already illegal. Plus the fact that improper handling of the fissionable material will KILL the handler!
Possession of the completed weapon is probably also illegal.
It does bring up an interesting point though. "That is illegal!"
Oh, yeah, that works...
"Straw purchases" of firearms is illegal. Certain modifications of AR style weapons are illegal. Background checks are required by law in all FFL sales.
Yet, the weapons used by the CA shooters were bought for them by a friend (straw purchase, background check completed), and had illegal modifications done to them. I understand the handguns found were purchased legally from a FFL dealer, with background checks. Manufacturing pipe bombs is illegal, yet completed bombs and materials for manufacturing more were found in their garage.
These people have no respect for the law, and the laws we have are not being effectively enforced, so the answer is simple: WE NEED ANOTHER LAW!
Sorry, the logic escapes me...
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Originally Posted by numberfive
You can't reason with illogical people. I think the irrational "we need more gun laws!" types have a hard time dealing with this, and think that somehow turns the rest of us into anarchists. Like making illegal things "illegaler" makes sense.
"No more laws" isn't the same as "no laws".
The person I quoted stated clearly : "Any law on weapons, is unconstitutional"
Which means that all those existing gun laws you're referring to would not exist in the first place, as they'd be unconstitutional. Which is stupid. Which is why his comment is stupid.
I am not really sure, but I do believe that private ownership the necessary materials to construct a nuclear weapon is already illegal. Plus the fact that improper handling of the fissionable material will KILL the handler!
Possession of the completed weapon is probably also illegal.
It does bring up an interesting point though. "That is illegal!"
Oh, yeah, that works...
"Straw purchases" of firearms is illegal. Certain modifications of AR style weapons are illegal. Background checks are required by law in all FFL sales.
Yet, the weapons used by the CA shooters were bought for them by a friend (straw purchase, background check completed), and had illegal modifications done to them. I understand the handguns found were purchased legally from a FFL dealer, with background checks. Manufacturing pipe bombs is illegal, yet completed bombs and materials for manufacturing more were found in their garage.
These people have no respect for the law, and the laws we have are not being effectively enforced, so the answer is simple: WE NEED ANOTHER LAW!
Sorry, the logic escapes me...
I more worry about the guy next door who has had a few too many and decides he wants to start admiring his gun collection, maybe wave a few around, maybe while the neighborhood kids are not too far away.
Or mistakenly thinks I'm messing around with his wife...
So your logic goes, after he mistakenly thinks you have been messing with his wife:
1. He may harm you if he has a gun.
2. He won't harm you if he doesn't have a gun.
Without guns, he can't harm you? Tens of thousands of years, what have we been doing before the invention of guns?
The person I quoted stated clearly : "Any law on weapons, is unconstitutional"
Which means that all those existing gun laws you're referring to would not exist in the first place, as they'd be unconstitutional. Which is stupid. Which is why his comment is stupid.
Please explain to me which gun law is actually useful.
Hey, I'm not the one that has to wrestle with incompatible beliefs.
You say we should prioritize gun reform, based on no priorities?
Ouch.
Okay, I tried. What I "say" is obviously whatever words you want to claim as mine, but what I have stated is all there in black and white. No "spinning," no "bootstrapping," no "wrestling with incompatible beliefs..."
So your logic goes, after he mistakenly thinks you have been messing with his wife:
1. He may harm you if he has a gun.
2. He won't harm you if he doesn't have a gun.
Without guns, he can't harm you? Tens of thousands of years, what have we been doing before the invention of guns?
I guess these characterizations make those who make them feel smarter, like they know the obvious better than anyone else, but no..., that is not my logic. I read somewhere that people did kill other people even before the invention of guns. I get that, but thanks for reminding me...
I'd go on, but just about anyone can do better than that if they really want to better understand someone else's logic, right?
Am I the only one suddenly hearing Jimi Hendrix singing "Hey Joe" in the background somewhere...
Okay, I tried. What I "say" is obviously whatever words you want to claim as mine, but what I have stated is all there in black and white. No "spinning," no "bootstrapping," no "wrestling with incompatible beliefs..."
No such nonsense, just telling it like it is.
Let's just say we tried...
How about you try to come up with a priorities list, so we can see where gun law reform fits in?
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