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Evangelical Franklin Graham is acting as a negotiator between the FBI and the holdouts. Hopefully Franklin can make them realize they hold no cards and should submit unto Caesar.
Your little post showed nothing........ Nothing you posted expressed LaVoy hated government......you could try again if you have bigger bait!
Are you use to not asking questions?
LaVoy's jacket was zipped, why would he go for a gun with a zipped up jacket?
Why was LaVoy not given the chance to meet with the Sheriff, this trip was planned for that day, by the Sheriff?
Why did the video given start at :25? Another Zulu Time, reasoning?
Why were these people fired upon at the first stop?
Where is the truck for public viewing?
Now the story is coming out........the 9mm was planted, could this be true?
Further information about the handgun in the FBI’s report, whose serial number apparently came up as Stolen
First Encounter
As the two cars, comprising the caravan, were making their way to John Day. they were pulled over at the first roadblock. At first, neither side did anything in what could be described as a silent stand-off. The occupants of the vehicles were not given any instructions (e.g. to exit the vehicle, etc.). Finally, in an attempt to show peaceful intent, Ryan Payne put both hands out of the truck through the open window, to show he was not armed, and he was promptly shot at with the bullet striking metal of the truck between the window and the mirror.
DAVE HODGES QUESTION: DID FEDERAL AUTHORITIES EVER GIVE THE OCCUPANTS OF THE TRUCKS A CHANCE TO SURRENDER AT THE FIRST ROADBLOCK? DID THEY ISSUE INSTRUCTIONS THROUGH THEIR PA?
SHAWNA COX ANSWER: NO! THEY JUST OPENED FIRE ON US AS WE SAT THERE. THEY NEVER GAVE US THE CHANCE TO SURRENDER.
A Fateful Decision
At that point, the driver of the first vehicle, Lavoy Finicum made a fateful decision to escape the gunfire and reach the protection of the Sheriff waiting for them at John Day.
As Finicum sped away, federal authorities were in pursuit. Very quickly, they came upon a second roadblock. Cox stated that it was at that point that Payne begged Finicum to pull over and he kept saying that we have to reach the Sheriff.
The Second Roadblock
Upon reaching the second roadblock, Finicum attempted to swerve to the side of the road and the truck was stuck in a snowbank.
According to Cox, Finicum exited the vehicle with his hands up and said:
“We have women in the car don’t shoot!:
According to Cox, and her account is backed up by Victoria Sharp, Finicum had his hands in the air as he faced the FBI agents who were stationed in the trees and said:
“We are going to the Sheriff….well, just go ahead and shoot me.” This was all said with his hands in the air. Finicum (was) immediately shot upon exiting the car, several times, and was, again, shot at repeatedly, while he lie in the snow dying.
Attempted Second Degree Murder of the Occupants in the Truck
Immediately, the occupants had red lasers on their bodies as the scurried for cover in the truck. Immediately after Finicum was killed, the truck came under fire. No orders were issued to the occupants, and as it was at the first roadblock, firing bullets at the occupants of the truck was the first order of the day.
Cox believes that the vehicle was struck at least one hundred times. Both women were hysterically screaming to “please stop shooting” as the two women were begging for their lives.
This entire event, complete with two roadblocks, unprovoked gunfire and FBI agents in the trees could only be described as an “old west ambush”.
With no movement in the truck, and after firing over 100 rounds, the FBI finally issued its first order to surrender. They ordered the male occupants out of the vehicle, followed by the females.
I would like to know how many of you just sitting typing stuff you don't know and dissing an honest dead man, would have jump out and asked to be shot and not the women?
Some how in a mysterious fire involving Shawna's Cox guns, this woman's son in law was killed......consequence or ?
Instead of relying on an interview from a militia blog maybe we could wait for a full report from the Oregon Police and or FBI report for things that were not seen in the video.
So at what point did Finicum become honorable, he left the first road bock, attempted to avoid the second and now he's worried about the lives of women. I have to wonder about the state of mind of spouses or parents that allow their women to get into a car with someone willing to give up his life, maybe they thought he was kidding?
Instead of relying on an interview from a militia blog maybe we could wait for a full report from the Oregon Police and or FBI report for things that were not seen in the video.
So at what point did Finicum become honorable, he left the first road bock, attempted to avoid the second and now he's worried about the lives of women. I have to wonder about the state of mind of spouses or parents that allow their women to get into a car with someone willing to give up his life, maybe they thought he was kidding?
Oh, the folklore that is springing up around this fake patriot. He attempts to flee from not one, but two roadblocks with absolutely no regard for the women in his car until he is surrounded by LE with weapons drawn. Then, suddenly, he has this great concern about his passengers? More like he realizes in that moment that his days of playing cowboy are over.
From the moment I heard of Finicum's death I knew he would be elevated to martyrdom. 3~Shepherds hysterical (and I mean that in both definitions of the word) screed is just a regurgitation of the BS that is being disseminated on all of the fake patriot blogs and Facebook pages around the country. Sainthood is not far behind.
Why was LaVoy not given the chance to meet with the Sheriff, this trip was planned for that day, by the Sheriff?
When there is a warrant out for your arrest, you may be arrested - even if it plays merry hell with your social calendar. It's one of those inconveniences you need to plan around before embarking on crime.
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I would like to know how many of you just sitting typing stuff you don't know and dissing an honest dead man, would have jump out and asked to be shot and not the women?
Let's put aside the fact that the women would have been in no danger at all, had it not been for Finicum & Co.'s desire to play at being partisans. If the FBI really were looking to shoot the occupants, how come everybody else came out alive? Everybody in that roadblock figured out how to surrender - except Finicum, who acted in a way that can best be filed under "How not to deal with law enforcement, ever."
So now the "patriots" have decided to show up to demonstrate in Burns, because a useless gesture seems to be the thing right now. They're hurt & surprised that the locals really just want them to leave.
When there is a warrant out for your arrest, you may be arrested - even if it plays merry hell with your social calendar. It's one of those inconveniences you need to plan around before embarking on crime.
Let's put aside the fact that the women would have been in no danger at all, had it not been for Finicum & Co.'s desire to play at being partisans. If the FBI really were looking to shoot the occupants, how come everybody else came out alive? Everybody in that roadblock figured out how to surrender - except Finicum, who acted in a way that can best be filed under "How not to deal with law enforcement, ever."
People are still trying to rationalize for these militia idiots?
I think we are all being trolled. Is the earth still flat, too?
Well, there was a high profile case of celebrities promoting that very idea just in the last week or two ... not sure if there's any overlap, but we certainly have more than our fair share of loons running around.
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Nothing you posted expressed LaVoy hated government......you could try again if you have bigger bait! 