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[SIZE=7]U.S. Shootings Since 1963 Have Killed More Americans Than All Wars Ever[/SIZE]
Headline is theatric and grossly misleading. therefore an anitgun marketing piece to help support the political agenda of the current administration and HRC. Immediate thoughts go to WWII and VN. Not the case...the revolution and the civil war are the 'all wars than ever' cited. Additioanlly more men tallied in that number died of disease than of battle wounds. Of those dying of battle wounds, a large number were killed by cannon fire and not rifle or pistol bullets.
"PolitiFact could not find data for gun deaths before 1968. Add in the missing years, and the total number of firearm fatalities since JFK's death would surely be higher than 1.5 million."
"66 percent suicide and 33 pere cent homicide...." speaks to the issues other than guns. Suicides are a seperate issue and gun are irrelevant to suicides. "Poisoning" trumps firearm suicide. Some cultures prefer hanging to any other method. Bridge jumper galore.
And yes shabazz, race is a critical variable in the the deathrate. Guess who is statistically dying each week in Newark, nj at 2+ a week? Thought black lives mattered? Guess not.
What are the total attempt rates in the US compared to other countries with strict gun laws? It's all over the place, yes? I'm not so sure any argument can be made about the availability of guns leading to suicides attempts.
The only argument that can be made about guns is the success rate...
Humane quick death.
I have a steak knife you can try and cut your head off with.
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And yes shabazz, race is a critical variable in the the deathrate. Guess who is statistically dying each week in Newark, nj at 2+ a week? Thought black lives mattered? Guess not.
Ah hell!
You went there, didn't you!
That will never work, on those raised to be the victim of their own character.
Well yes if you take away accidents, suicides, criminal activity gun violence plummets, I'm guessing to zero
I feel safer already
"In 2011, in incidents of murder for which the relationships of murder victims and offenders were known, 54.3 percent were killed by someone they knew (acquaintance, neighbor, friend, boyfriend, etc.); 24.8 percent of victims were slain by family members. The relationship of murder victims and offenders was unknown in 44.1 percent of murder and nonnegligent manslaughter incidents in 2011. (Based on Expanded Homicide Data Table 10.)"
In essence, you stand a far greater change to be murdered by your family members and friends than gun nuts that you don't even know.
What are the total attempt rates in the US compared to other countries with strict gun laws? It's all over the place, yes? I'm not so sure any argument can be made about the availability of guns leading to suicides attempts.
The only argument that can be made about guns is the success rate...
I'm not sure about other countries but there have been studies done within the US
Studies done that show a strong correlation between states with high gun ownership rates with suicide but there may also be other reasons.
"The journal Injury Epidemiology announced their inaugural award for paper of the year, which was won by HSPH doctoral student April Opoliner, with co-authors Deborah Azrael, Catherine Barber, Garrett Fitzmaurice, and senior author Matthew Miller for their article “Explaining geographic patterns of suicide in the US: the role of firearms and antidepressants.” This ecologic study across both states and counties for 2001-2005 found a strong relationship between household gun ownership levels and rates of firearm suicide and overall suicide."
"In 2011, in incidents of murder for which the relationships of murder victims and offenders were known, 54.3 percent were killed by someone they knew (acquaintance, neighbor, friend, boyfriend, etc.); 24.8 percent of victims were slain by family members. The relationship of murder victims and offenders was unknown in 44.1 percent of murder and nonnegligent manslaughter incidents in 2011. (Based on Expanded Homicide Data Table 10.)"
In essence, you stand a far greater change to be murdered by your family members and friends than gun nuts that you don't even know.
One of the greatest threats is from a family member or an acquaintance, although this could take place anywhere the best place to protect yourself might be in your own home. Yet many people feel the need to carry outside the home.
Doing some quick research men are more likely to commit suicide regardless of race. Percent is not an appropriate indicator for a statistic like this because of the disparity in the populations. You need to use rates or ratios for meaningful comparison. There is about a 6:1 ratio comparing the white population to the black population. When comparing any statistic if there is parity you should have 6 occurrences in the white population and 1 in the black population.
Taking a quick guess it looks to be about 8:1 ratio which indicate a slightly higher suicide rate in the white male population compared to the black male population.
You are in denial. Suicide isn't a leading cause of death in the African American demographic.
It is estimated that about 26,000 white males kill themselves annually. That number doesn't white Hispanics. Suicide between the age of 10 - 35 is the 2nd leading cause of death among white males.
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