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Old 01-28-2016, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN
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And people still claim we don't have a problem with guns in America!



U.S. Shootings Since 1963 Have Killed More Americans Than All Wars Ever
Since when have there been 300+ million soldiers in a theater of war? The death RATE matters more than the count. If you don't think the rate matters, may I suggest moving to Honduras? Their homicide counts are half of what we have in the US, that must mean it's twice as safe there!
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Old 01-28-2016, 05:44 PM
 
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Liberals, keep crying about guns. Got to keep the dealers in business.
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Old 01-28-2016, 07:04 PM
 
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I want to know how many of the suicides committed with a knife were from multiple stab wounds........
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Old 01-28-2016, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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It's a pretty absurd premise for an article and they did a terrible job:

  1. If 63% of gun deaths were suicides, then 63% of the 1.5 million total they're claiming needs to be thrown out. It is obvious to anyone that bothers looking into it that suicide rates in completely disarmed first world nations are as high or higher than the USA. Clearly guns do not drive suicide rates. Anyone killing themselves with one would have found another way of killing themselves anyways.
  2. They were kind enough to say that 33% of the total deaths were homicides.
  3. This leaves you with 450,000 gun deaths.
  4. Wording like "would surely be higher" is kinda admitting that they don't know what they're talking about. It smacks of a rushed article that is heavy on opinion and low on solid research.
  5. The article is unapologetically biased.
But if we were to just concede the point, it's not really all that alarming. The United States has had an incredibly easy time of it when it comes to wars and casualties. Just take WW2 for example. The death toll for the USSR was 27 million, 20 million dead for China, 7.4 million for Germany, 6 million for Poland, 2.6 million for India, 2.2 million in French Indochina, 3.2 million for Japan, 1.7 million for Yugoslavia. The USA fought on every arena and was a huge factor in victory, yet only 0.5 million Americans died in total. In our 241 years of history, we've only 3 wars that exceeded 100,000 in American deaths: The Civil War, World War 1 and World War 2. We have never experienced a war in which 1 million Americans died. Massive death tolls in wars just isn't part of the American experience.

With that in mind, I expect that diseases, accidental deaths, car accidents and deaths due to old age all have vastly larger death tolls than either of these things.
I feel so much better after reading that, 30,000 killed in by guns in the US are really not an issue.


Maybe we can now focus on car accidents, accidental deaths and deaths from old age and forget about gun violence.
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Old 01-28-2016, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Legalize drugs and remove the profit from the drug trade if you really care about reducing the murder rate in the Unites States.
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Old 01-28-2016, 07:21 PM
 
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Yes, but 60% or more of gun deaths are suicides.
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Wonder how many were suicides and the racial breakdown.
And why would that make a difference? Isn't it still death by gun which is the point of OP?
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Old 01-29-2016, 01:32 AM
 
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I feel so much better after reading that, 30,000 killed in by guns in the US are really not an issue.


Maybe we can now focus on car accidents, accidental deaths and deaths from old age and forget about gun violence.
If you were really concerned about gun violence you would propose solutions for keeping blacks from joining gangs instead of trying to take firearms away from law abiding citizens.
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Old 01-29-2016, 08:25 AM
 
Location: USA
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If you were really concerned about gun violence you would propose solutions for keeping blacks from joining gangs instead of trying to take firearms away from law abiding citizens.
Black on black issues. Like many here say "Thats are own business".
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Old 01-29-2016, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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And people still claim we don't have a problem with guns in America!



U.S. Shootings Since 1963 Have Killed More Americans Than All Wars Ever
And falls and drink drives have killed many many more again your point?
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Old 01-29-2016, 08:34 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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If you were really concerned about gun violence you would propose solutions for keeping blacks from joining gangs instead of trying to take firearms away from law abiding citizens.
This.
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