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I have noticed a pattern for the last 5 years. The winters are normal, the springs are cooler and the summers are very mild temp wise with very few severe storms. Bumper crops for the farmers. Pretty much the opposite of what the Global Warming Scientologists said would happen.
fresh water sits on top of salt water, it doesn't mix on its own. There is a small amount of diffusion of salt into the fresh water but largely they just sit there. The one on top of the other.
Time, Slow not fast. The black sea has oxygen free dense sea water below less dense less saline surface water.
Two feet of sea level rise is about 60,000 cubic miles of water added to the ocean. The ice loss rate is accelerating. 2X every how many years? Run the numbers out several decades and you hit feet per year in sea level rise.
In my lifetime, the national debt went from crossing $1 trillion to having a deficit of more than $1 trillion.
Do that with the ice loss and I hope you live as far above sea level as I do.
There is a difference between uneducated and ignorant. Ignore, choosing not sea what is in front of their face and going to smack them over the head. Educated, book smart. Someone with a PhD can ignore the on coming train.
If you really believe that fresh water and salt water do not mix (this was a myth from the Queran), there is very little I can do to help you.
Just for fun, take half a glass of salt water (whatever density gm/cc NaCl) and pour in another half glass of tap water with food dye. Do they mix, or does the colored water stay "layered" on the top?
I have noticed a pattern for the last 5 years. The winters are normal, the springs are cooler and the summers are very mild temp wise with very few severe storms. Bumper crops for the farmers. Pretty much the opposite of what the Global Warming Scientologists said would happen.
Maybe that's the pattern you've noticed in the location where you live but it doesn't count on a global scale.
That's certainly not a pattern where I live, in fact it's the complete opposite, and it's not the pattern in most other parts of the world.
So maybe you should research what's happening on a global scale, to other places all around the world and not just to what you think is a pattern happening in your one little location of the world.
Where are you located? I'd like to check the weather and climate records for the past 5 years at your location and then compare them with past records to see for myself what kind of pattern you are noticing.
More lying Global Warming BS. I regularly check a web site that shows that the govt. is altering old data, and lying through its teeth about how the temp goes up every year. Typical of our govt. today. Lies, lies, lies. There's no discernable change in the climate that has any negative effect on the life of most people. No seas rising, no permanent droughts, nothing.
Are you suggesting that one or the other is non-polar or lipid soluable? The salinity of two bodies of water not separated by a barrier will equilibrate over time. This is pretty basic stuff.
2. ....................... and Antarctic ice levels are increasing. Now if your doomsday theories of melting ice are true, why have sea levels not risen two feet? Of course, they have not.
3. "Knows science"- says the person with no scientific degrees, no formal training in science, never published in the scientific literature, and never edited a scientific paper. Now how do you "know" science??????
So says the person who has absolutely no clue when it comes to climate science...
If you really believe that fresh water and salt water do not mix (this was a myth from the Queran), there is very little I can do to help you.
Just for fun, take half a glass of salt water (whatever density gm/cc NaCl) and pour in another half glass of tap water with food dye. Do they mix, or does the colored water stay "layered" on the top?
Your test is misleading. It won't pass the test either way because you gave him the wrong instructions on how to do it properly.
For starters Earth doesn't contain half salt water and half fresh water so your ratio of half a glass of salt water to half a glass of fresh water isn't a valid test.
Secondly, the dyed fresh water cannot be poured in because the action of pouring causes surface motion which causes mixing. In nature, the reality is that fresh water that is added to earth's oceans via rivers, ice melt etc. is added very slowly and gently and at a ratio equivalent to one drop at a time over an extended period of time, and it does not readily mix.
Try your invented test yourself first before you recommend it to anyone else. One half glass of salt water with 4 or 5 DROPS of dyed fresh water added to it very slowly and gently right at the surface, one drop at a time, would be closer to the mark for your proposed test. The drops of dyed fresh water will just float there near the surface of the salt water for a long time before gradually being overtaken by salt water. Now take that time and multiply it in accordance with the ratio of how much salt water and fresh water there really is on Earth. That will give you a slightly better idea of how very long it takes for fresh water to mix with salt water.
Just for fun, check out the website and picture below to get a better idea of how much salt water and how much fresh water there is on earth. Also, click on the picture for an enlarged view and for extra information in addition to what is on the website.
Your test is misleading. It won't pass the test either way because you gave him the wrong instructions on how to do it properly.
For starters Earth doesn't contain half salt water and half fresh water so your ratio of half a glass of salt water to half a glass of fresh water isn't a valid test.
Secondly, the dyed fresh water cannot be poured in because the action of pouring causes surface motion which causes mixing. In nature, the reality is that fresh water that is added to earth's oceans via rivers, ice melt etc. is added very slowly and gently and at a ratio equivalent to one drop at a time over an extended period of time, and it does not readily mix.
Try your invented test yourself first before you recommend it to anyone else. One half glass of salt water with 4 or 5 DROPS of dyed fresh water added to it very slowly and gently right at the surface, one drop at a time, would be closer to the mark for your proposed test. The drops of dyed fresh water will just float there near the surface of the salt water for a long time before gradually being overtaken by salt water. Now take that time and multiply it in accordance with the ratio of how much salt water and fresh water there really is on Earth. That will give you a slightly better idea of how very long it takes for fresh water to mix with salt water.
Just for fun, check out the website and picture below to get a better idea of how much salt water and how much fresh water there is on earth. Also, click on the picture for an enlarged view and for extra information in addition to what is on the website.
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You people are priceless. This is very basic chemistry and fluid dynamics. The fact that all of you believe that fresh and salt water do not mix simply defies belief and shows how and why you believe in AGW.
Shocking.
PS- go ahead and "drip in" just three drops of water with food coloring......just a few drops.
This is what we call polar and non polar solvents. Mixing of fresh and salt water is what we call waves, currents, and tides. The ocean is not made up of benzene or gasoline, therefore fresh water will "mix" just fine.
Now, now there kiddo, don't go getting yourself in a snit just because you got caught out in a false test. Take it on the chin and own up to it like a grownup.
If you really believe that fresh water and salt water do not mix (this was a myth from the Queran), there is very little I can do to help you.
Or there is very little I can do for you if you aren't going to look at what things actually do. Yes they do mix, and yes they don't mix, It is a matter of rate of mixing. The black sea is a good example. Fresh water flows in, it mixes with salty sea water and the mix flows out the Bosporus, the salt content is replace by saltier water flowing into the black sea and it does this at quite a clip. The surface water is less dense and heads into the Mediterranean. Water from the Mediterranean flows along the bottom and heads the other direction.
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009
Just for fun, take half a glass of salt water (whatever density gm/cc NaCl) and pour in another half glass of tap water with food dye. Do they mix, or does the colored water stay "layered" on the top?
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