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LOL...Who do you think was keeping records 900 years ago? The first thermometer was thought to have been invented in 1612.
Friday, May 20, 2016, 10:13 AM - India has hit an all-time hottest temperature record of 51C in the city of Phalodi.
The deadly heat wave has spread across much of northern India, where temperatures have topped 40C for several weeks. It has already killed hundreds of people and destroyed thousands of crops in over 13 states. News - India sets hottest temperature record amid deadly heat wave - The Weather Network
Like I said, it was hotter 900 years ago? Do you deny that? Do you deny science?
Friday, May 20, 2016, 10:13 AM - India has hit an all-time hottest temperature record of 51C in the city of Phalodi.
The deadly heat wave has spread across much of northern India, where temperatures have topped 40C for several weeks...
51C? No doubt their government is in on the conspiracy, and fudging the data. It couldn't have been more than 49.
I can't believe you can't follow what they are saying....
They aren't saying it doesn't mix... Or maybe you are doing this on purpose....
You tube is my friend. It shows the fresh water going one way and the salt going another, leaving the question how long does it take to get back together?
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It's amusing that those who claim the most scientific training seem to think we are in any danger of emitting too little CO2 and is worried about the precious plants.
Well if we aren't going to dam the fjords we may actually be in danger of emitting too little CO2 to combat the coming cooling. Damming the fjords will tend to combat sea level rise.
1. CO2 levels over the last several million years are facts, not "pseudoscience".
2. CO2 levels have been as high as 30X current levels, in which plant and animal life thrived. Similarly, over the balance of the last tens of millions of years, CO2 levels have been 4-5X what they are today. That is fact, not "pseudoscience".
3. Industrial production during the Depression fell 55%- that is fact, not "pseudoscience".
4. Atmospheric CO2 levels during the Great Depression slowly INCREASES, despite production of man-made CO2, from 303-310 ppm- that is fact, not pseudoscience.
5. Temperatures increased markedly during the Great Depression- that is fact, not pseudoscience.
6. Man-made CO2 accounts for only 3% of all atmospheric CO2- that is fact, not pseudoscience.
7. CO2, as a contribution to atmospheric warming, is only 3.6%, with man-made CO2 contribution being .117%- that is fact, not pseudoscience.
8. During the recent "great recession" industrial activity fell, yet liberals state that both CO2 and temps increased- that is fact, not pseudoscience.
9. Fossilized tropical plants and animals, dating to current contintental positions, are found in the Arctic and Antarctic regions. That is fact, not pseudoscience.
10. CO2 levels increase AFTER temp changes, not the other way around- that is fact, not pseudoscience.
It is again, hilarious that one who has no degrees in science, no publications in the scientific literature, has never written a research grant, never presented scientific data at national meetings, never editied peer reviewed scientific publications, and never held an academic professor post at university claims "expertise" in science.
Everything that refutes your cult is labeled "pseudoscience, while you embrace the quackery of AGW, which has done nothing to disprove the "null hypothesis" and thus should be condemned as an unsubstantiated premise by anyone with half a brain.
You cannot explain the above "inconvenient truths" without facing the fact that the hypothesis of your cult is deeply flawed. Given no scientific or academic training, it is easy to see how you were fooled, as you simply do not have the academic ability to judge what is valid science or not, thus your belief in this farce of a cult.
Great post.
While points 1-9 are interesting, point 10 is really the only point necessary to destroy AGW theory.
Given that atmospheric co2 levels increase in response to a warming event, and such increases occur on average of 600-800 years AFTER the warming, places the theory that co2 is the cause of warming to that of extreme idiocy and gullibility.
Even children understand the basics of "cause and effect," where cause always comes first. For adults who believe the nonsense about co2 causing warming, they are either woefully uninformed about this cause and effect relationship between warming and increases in co2, or they are mentally unstable.
For those who believe the AGW nonsense, they must also consider it reasonable to believe that a dented fender was the cause of the automobile accident.
LOL...Who do you think was keeping records 900 years ago? The first thermometer was thought to have been invented in 1612.
Wow. This explains so much.
Temperature records, along with CO2 levels come from modern day sceintific analysis of the geological records, i.e. from the strata and ice core samples.
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Friday, May 20, 2016, 10:13 AM - India has hit an all-time hottest temperature record of 51C in the city of Phalodi.
The deadly heat wave has spread across much of northern India, where temperatures have topped 40C for several weeks. It has already killed hundreds of people and destroyed thousands of crops in over 13 states. News - India sets hottest temperature record amid deadly heat wave - The Weather Network
Your first clue is the "Weather Networkâ„¢. Notice that it is not the "Climate Network". Weather and climate are two entirely different things. Weather changes daily, while climate is measured over thousands and tens of thousands of year cycles. Furthermore, within those thousand and tens of thousands of year cycles, there are variations, up and down, yet the overall trend continuing in one direction .... either cooling, or warming (with warming being a much more desirable, unless you think entering a new glaciation period which results in the loss of 95% of life on this planet is a good thing).
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Deniers like to say that drought has not worsened...Tell that to people in Asia.
Here in central Texas, we are well below our normal temps for this time of year, and we have been getting abnormal amounts of precipitation for months on end.
Global climate isn't measured in regional snapshots over short periods of time.
Come back and talk about climate changes when oranges start growing in Canada, instead of Florida and California. Until then, all you are talking about is WEATHER ... not CLIMATE.
FACT: Weather changes constantly. Climate has two states: a glaciation state, and an interglacial state. During an interglacial period, we are either in a warming cycle (still exiting the last glaciation period) or we are in a cooling cycle (heading toward the next glaciation period).
Pray that we are in the warming cycle, if you have two brain cells still able to shake hands.
Can't read 86 pages of crazy-talk. All I'll say is that it is more than 20 degrees below normal here, rainfall is through the roof for this time of year, and I walked my dog this morning wearing a hat, insulated rain jacket and gloves. . Will I argue that Global Warning hasn't hit SE Idaho yet? Or will I argue that the premise of the OP (and the statement that last year was hot and this year will be hotter) actually means ANYTHING in the larger scale of the condition of the planet? No and no.
While points 1-9 are interesting, point 10 is really the only point necessary to destroy AGW theory.
Given that atmospheric co2 levels increase in response to a warming event, and such increases occur on average of 600-800 years AFTER the warming, places the theory that co2 is the cause of warming to that of extreme idiocy and gullibility.
Even children understand the basics of "cause and effect," where cause always comes first. For adults who believe the nonsense about co2 causing warming, they are either woefully uninformed about this cause and effect relationship between warming and increases in co2, or they are mentally unstable.
For those who believe the AGW nonsense, they must also consider it reasonable to believe that a dented fender was the cause of the automobile accident.
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