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Old 02-07-2008, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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WASHINGTON: The U.S. Energy Department is subsidizing two Russian nuclear institutes that are building key parts of a reactor in Iran that the United States spent years trying to stop, according to a House committee.

The institutes, both in Nizhny Novgorod, gave U.S. officials sales presentations describing their capabilities, and listing the Bushehr reactor, which Russia has agreed to fuel, as one of their projects. One institute is providing control systems, including control room equipment, and the other is providing hundreds of pumps and ventilation fans.

U.S. money for Russia is linked to Iran nuclear plant - International Herald Tribune

Entangling alliances. We finance Russian scientists who are helping Iran fuel their nuclear reactors. Good job!
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Old 02-07-2008, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Interesting story, the problem itself was actually discovered by the Government Accountability Office (GAO), so the good news is the self-critical evaluations apparently provide some good insights.

The program itself was established by the Dept of Energy to help redirect the efforts of the former Soviet Union scientists after the end of the cold war (let's assume the end of the Soviet Union). Many scientists were working on nuclear and other weapon projects, and we had an arrangement to have them expand their skills so they could work on non-weapon projects. The core problems found by GAO was that the program had just developed it's own momentum, lacked appropriate oversight to assure objectives were being appropriately met and an exit, or termination strategy.

For those interested in the details, here is a copy of the GAO report explaining the problems:

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08189.pdf
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Old 02-07-2008, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Interesting story, the problem itself was actually discovered by the Government Accountability Office (GAO), so the good news is the self-critical evaluations apparently provide some good insights.
Thanks for the link. The GAO is my favorite government office. They seem to be one of the few government agencies that actually put America first.
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Old 02-07-2008, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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In my experience what frequently happens is programs are put into place with good intentions, and then over a long period of time the execution just kind of falls apart. With the long lead time associated with the Federal Gov't budgeting and fund execution process, and personnel turnover, these programs frequently just become budgetary momentum. The Federal Management Internal Control Program is designed to catch some of this stuff, but frequently they just end up looking at the funding controls and feedback mechanisms vs taking a look at the continuing program objective and results.

I would have thought the Dept of Energy Office of the Inspector General would have scheduled this program for periodic program review, but I don't see any DOE audit reports pertaining to this program.

Department of Energy - Calendar Year 2007 (http://www.ig.energy.gov/104.htm - broken link)
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Old 02-07-2008, 05:42 PM
 
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Default Iran we will fund your nuclear programs

Nice to see on CNN with Lou Dobbs that the Bush regime has once again mind boggled the American people. Seems that the American tax payers dollar has helped make Iran a nuclear contender. We have been funding the scientist working on their nuclear development. Bush has once again opened the front door to terrorism. I wonder what it will take for the people to march to the white house and threw them idiots out. EW
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Old 02-07-2008, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Nice to see on CNN with Lou Dobbs that the Bush regime has once again mind boggled the American people. Seems that the American tax payers dollar has helped make Iran a nuclear contender. We have been funding the scientist working on their nuclear development. Bush has once again opened the front door to terrorism. I wonder what it will take for the people to march to the white house and threw them idiots out. EW
Threads merged, and you can read the entire report on this issue in a prior posting. It isn't quite as simple as "idiots" in the White House. It is part of a long term program with an objective established fifteen years ago.
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Old 02-07-2008, 07:01 PM
 
Location: DFW, TX
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Interesting story, the problem itself was actually discovered by the Government Accountability Office (GAO), so the good news is the self-critical evaluations apparently provide some good insights.

The program itself was established by the Dept of Energy to help redirect the efforts of the former Soviet Union scientists after the end of the cold war (let's assume the end of the Soviet Union). Many scientists were working on nuclear and other weapon projects, and we had an arrangement to have them expand their skills so they could work on non-weapon projects. The core problems found by GAO was that the program had just developed it's own momentum, lacked appropriate oversight to assure objectives were being appropriately met and an exit, or termination strategy.

For those interested in the details, here is a copy of the GAO report explaining the problems:

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08189.pdf
I gotta say, I've been impressed with what's been coming out of the GAO. If I were Ron Paul, I'd say that's one of the offices that I would leave intact
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Old 02-07-2008, 07:44 PM
 
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Threads merged, and you can read the entire report on this issue in a prior posting. It isn't quite as simple as "idiots" in the White House. It is part of a long term program with an objective established fifteen years ago.

Well I got the "idiot" ideal because thats basically what Lou Dobbs said and I agree. Just because things started a long time ago doesn't mean that nobody's at fault either. EW
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Old 02-07-2008, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Well I got the "idiot" ideal because thats basically what Lou Dobbs said and I agree. Just because things started a long time ago doesn't mean that nobody's at fault either. EW
I believe you, I used to like listening to Lou Dobbs myself, until a couple of years ago. Recently, I have found his shows lacking sufficient depth and analysis.

When looking at my posting, neither GAO nor I are claiming nobody is at fault, but much of what is conveyed over the media isn't sufficently explained so that folks can ascertain fault accurately.
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