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Old 02-18-2016, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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I've seen a shocking and appalling display of corruption, embezzlement, nepotism, hypocrisy, bigotry, bloodthirstiness, and misogyny.

Sheesh!

How was your long weekend in DC?
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Old 02-18-2016, 05:31 PM
 
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Here's some moral values for you:

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Old 02-18-2016, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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The typical Arab has more good values, honor and decency...let alone good manners, than the average American by a long shot.
As Winston Churchill stated:
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

"The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, SLOVENLY SYSTEMS OF AGRICULTURE, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

"A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

"No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."

- - - Winston S. Churchill
Thomas Jefferson wrote:
“We took the liberty to make some enquiries concerning the ground of their pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury, and observed that we considered all mankind as our friends who had done us no wrong, nor had given us any provocation. The Ambassador [of Tripoli] answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”
- - - Thomas Jefferson, Letter from the commissioners (John Adams, Thomas Jefferson) to John Jay, 28 March 1786, in Thomas Jefferson Travels: Selected Writings, 1784-1789, by Anthony Brandt, pp. 104-105.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson

(Digest version : We consider all mankind as our friends. Their response : It is their right and duty to make war upon all infidels, and make slaves of all they could take as prisoners.)

John Quincy Adams wrote:
“The precept of the koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force.”
- - - John Quincy Adams, 6th American President
https://www.apologeticspress.org/apc...7&article=1142

(Digest version : Koran imposes perpetual war against infidels. Convert, dhimmi, or die... no other option.)

THE ONLY THING YOU CAN "TRUST" ABOUT ISLAM IS THAT IF YOU ARE AN INFIDEL, YOU WILL BE CONVERTED, CONQUERED, OR KILLED.

And "peaceful" Muslims will demand you to conform to THEIR belief system, attack you, your property, poison your dogs, rape your women, defile your religious materials, and claim moral superiority as they lop off the heads of men, women and children.
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Old 02-18-2016, 06:15 PM
 
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As Winston Churchill stated:
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

"The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, SLOVENLY SYSTEMS OF AGRICULTURE, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

"A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

"No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."

- - - Winston S. Churchill
Thomas Jefferson wrote:
“We took the liberty to make some enquiries concerning the ground of their pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury, and observed that we considered all mankind as our friends who had done us no wrong, nor had given us any provocation. The Ambassador [of Tripoli] answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”
- - - Thomas Jefferson, Letter from the commissioners (John Adams, Thomas Jefferson) to John Jay, 28 March 1786, in Thomas Jefferson Travels: Selected Writings, 1784-1789, by Anthony Brandt, pp. 104-105.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson

(Digest version : We consider all mankind as our friends. Their response : It is their right and duty to make war upon all infidels, and make slaves of all they could take as prisoners.)

John Quincy Adams wrote:
“The precept of the koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force.”
- - - John Quincy Adams, 6th American President
https://www.apologeticspress.org/apc...7&article=1142

(Digest version : Koran imposes perpetual war against infidels. Convert, dhimmi, or die... no other option.)

THE ONLY THING YOU CAN "TRUST" ABOUT ISLAM IS THAT IF YOU ARE AN INFIDEL, YOU WILL BE CONVERTED, CONQUERED, OR KILLED.

And "peaceful" Muslims will demand you to conform to THEIR belief system, attack you, your property, poison your dogs, rape your women, defile your religious materials, and claim moral superiority as they lop off the heads of men, women and children.
I didn't say anything about Muslims or Islam. Look at the thread title. It says Arab.
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Old 02-18-2016, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Jawjah
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Most Arab societies are very conservative and share a lot of conservative values with the Tea Party.
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Old 02-18-2016, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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I didn't say anything about Muslims or Islam. Look at the thread title. It says Arab.
As in "Saudi Arabia" - where anything NOT Islam is (ahem) restricted if not forbidden?
Or is there another country called Arabia?
ARAB - A member of a Semitic people inhabiting Arabia, whose language and Islamic religion spread widely throughout the Middle East and northern Africa from the seventh century. American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition.
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Old 02-19-2016, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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If, indeed, the Faith requires conversion of death the proponents had best realize their threat to the Western societies, America and the Europeans including Russia and also China, are threats to the people that have been the master killers on the planet. If they attempt to destroy us we will have to exterminate them where ever they infest the planet.

I do realize this is a call for genocide. When you face an implacable enemy that is willing to sacrifice every person to force their faith on everyone else you cannot think in any terms except extermination and genocide. I think it is past time to start before there are many more of them.


I welcome any other solutions.
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Old 02-19-2016, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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If, indeed, the Faith requires conversion of death the proponents had best realize their threat to the Western societies, America and the Europeans including Russia and also China, are threats to the people that have been the master killers on the planet. If they attempt to destroy us we will have to exterminate them where ever they infest the planet.

I do realize this is a call for genocide. When you face an implacable enemy that is willing to sacrifice every person to force their faith on everyone else you cannot think in any terms except extermination and genocide. I think it is past time to start before there are many more of them.


I welcome any other solutions.
That's a little dark Adolf 2.0. I think when you believe that mass genocide and the eradication of over a billion other people because they disagree with your world view is a viable solution, you may have crossed a line.

May I suggest some therapy and introspection.
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Old 02-19-2016, 09:22 AM
 
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As evidenced by what is self evident. I'm speaking from personal experience.

I know enough to know that Americans are definitely in no position to hold Arabs in judgement on the topic of moral values. Far from it.

Especially considering our behavior in the Arab world, which is often belligerent, self serving, irresponsible, and often times nihilistic.
BUT... Those are the same people that join ISIS and kill innocent people? They rape young girls? Yes, they may be truthful to their religion, but that doesn't make them good people. Maybe that is the difference between Christianity and Islam?

When muslims say that they are a religion of peace it is ridiculous. They are the aggressors! When anyone says they disagree with them, the muslims PROVE US RIGHT! There is no defending this.
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Old 02-19-2016, 09:27 AM
 
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Most Arab societies are very conservative and share a lot of conservative values with the Tea Party.
But, the tea party does not condone or encourage raping and killing innocent people. If we want to fight a war, we fight the fighters. The muslims do not discriminate in this regard.
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