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Old 01-29-2016, 08:47 PM
 
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Big difference between not being classified at the time they were sent versus not having the classification on the messages, even though they were classified.

Tough to believe that something would be determined to be top secret after the fact.

Frankly, I doubt it.

I think the classification was somehow removed when transferred to her private account.
By every indication, that clearly appears to be what happened here.
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Old 01-29-2016, 09:42 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The Obama administration has confirmed for the first time that Hillary stored 'top secret' documents on her unsecured personal server.

As has also been well documented, former high ranking Obama officials such as Secretary of Defense Robert Gates have publicly stated that the Chinese and the Russians almost assuredly hacked that server and whatever information was on it.

This is the Obama administration confirming this. If this woman is not indicted for her crimes, then the only explanation will be that Barack Obama and his administration are thoroughly corrupt.

There is no doubt now who the mole was leaking all that top classified intel to the Chinese.
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Old 01-29-2016, 11:51 PM
 
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The question is whether they were classified as 'top secret' at the time or just now when they are to be released to the media.

"Department officials also said the agency's Diplomatic Security and Intelligence and Research bureaus will investigate whether any of the information was classified at the time of transmission, "
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Actually, the FBI is investigating that and will make the final determination. The State Department has tried to insist that past emails were not previously classified in many cases, but the intelligence agencies that originally classified them and control their classification status have said they were. Final verdict: They were classified at the time.

So, it will not be up to the State Department to make this determination, it will be the FBI. And both the FBI and the intelligence agencies are apparently quite agitated about all this and do not appear to be willing to play along with the Obama regime's coverup effort on this, unlike the State Department.
You need to understand the system. Clinton certainly does.
She and the State Department are correct when they say "not marked classified when it was on Clinton's server and when she received/transmitted the Classified/Secret/Top Secret & Super "need to know only" S.A.P. emails.

The key word here is "marked" - they were not "marked" with any of the Classified to S.A.P (Special Access Programs) because the markings were all REMOVED and then the information was passed to the
Secret Home Brew, unsecured Clinton server and then distributed to her Blackberry, iPhone, "Special Access Programs." Top Secret & S.A.P is on a completely closed system that will not connect to even the Classified & Secret systems. It is often in a Vault room, no electronics allowed, the hard drives are removed every night & stored in a safe.

Clinton and her top aides had access to a Pentagon-run classified network that goes up to the Secret level, as well as a separate system used for Top Secret communications.

The two systems — the Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRNet) and the Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System (JWICS) — are not connected to the unclassified system, known as the Non-Classified Internet Protocol Router Network (NIPRNet). You cannot email from one system to the other, though you can use NIPRNet to send *emails outside the government.

And yet ....... some of these Top Secret & S.A.P. emails popped up on Clinton devices (which were NOT issued by the US State Department) and stored on her Private server. Somebody copied the information and sent it to her, so YES - they were not "marked classified". The FBI knows exactly who did that, because a record is kept of every use, who used it and what they looked at. They are still building the case and it will be bullet proof when done. The Rubber is going to hit the Road for Loretta Lynch.

5 other items of Note:
1. The FBI found cloud storage of Clinton's emails in October.
2. The FBI is no longer working with the State Department on classification - the stonewalling was never ending -- they are now working with Intelligence.
3. The FBI has refused to divulge to either the DOJ or TeamObama anything about their investigation.
4. The 22 emails that both the State Department & TeamObama are now saying was S.A.P. and can never be revealed is not the only emails they are withholding. TeamObama is withholding and refusing to release ANY emails between his Team & the Clinton Camp.
5. They have found emails that show that Patrick Kennedy (the guy who really runs the State Department) knew about the Clinton Server & tried to get her attorney to destroy the backup to the un-deleted emails. The Attorney refused to do that.
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Old 01-30-2016, 04:33 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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By every indication, that clearly appears to be what happened here.
Keep in mind, for some people to feel better, they must strive to find any phony scandal in a storm...
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Old 01-30-2016, 05:42 AM
 
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You need to understand the system. Clinton certainly does.
She and the State Department are correct when they say "not marked classified when it was on Clinton's server and when she received/transmitted the Classified/Secret/Top Secret & Super "need to know only" S.A.P. emails.

The key word here is "marked" - they were not "marked" with any of the Classified to S.A.P (Special Access Programs) because the markings were all REMOVED and then the information was passed to the
Secret Home Brew, unsecured Clinton server and then distributed to her Blackberry, iPhone, "Special Access Programs." Top Secret & S.A.P is on a completely closed system that will not connect to even the Classified & Secret systems. It is often in a Vault room, no electronics allowed, the hard drives are removed every night & stored in a safe.

Clinton and her top aides had access to a Pentagon-run classified network that goes up to the Secret level, as well as a separate system used for Top Secret communications.

The two systems — the Secret Internet Protocol Router Network (SIPRNet) and the Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communications System (JWICS) — are not connected to the unclassified system, known as the Non-Classified Internet Protocol Router Network (NIPRNet). You cannot email from one system to the other, though you can use NIPRNet to send *emails outside the government.

And yet ....... some of these Top Secret & S.A.P. emails popped up on Clinton devices (which were NOT issued by the US State Department) and stored on her Private server. Somebody copied the information and sent it to her, so YES - they were not "marked classified". The FBI knows exactly who did that, because a record is kept of every use, who used it and what they looked at. They are still building the case and it will be bullet proof when done. The Rubber is going to hit the Road for Loretta Lynch.

5 other items of Note:
1. The FBI found cloud storage of Clinton's emails in October.
2. The FBI is no longer working with the State Department on classification - the stonewalling was never ending -- they are now working with Intelligence.
3. The FBI has refused to divulge to either the DOJ or TeamObama anything about their investigation.
4. The 22 emails that both the State Department & TeamObama are now saying was S.A.P. and can never be revealed is not the only emails they are withholding. TeamObama is withholding and refusing to release ANY emails between his Team & the Clinton Camp.
5. They have found emails that show that Patrick Kennedy (the guy who really runs the State Department) knew about the Clinton Server & tried to get her attorney to destroy the backup to the un-deleted emails. The Attorney refused to do that.
Great info^^^ where did you get it --- are you involved with intelligence yourself?
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Old 01-30-2016, 05:48 AM
 
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The Obama administration has confirmed for the first time that Hillary stored 'top secret' documents on her unsecured personal server.

As has also been well documented, former high ranking Obama officials such as Secretary of Defense Robert Gates have publicly stated that the Chinese and the Russians almost assuredly hacked that server and whatever information was on it.

This is the Obama administration confirming this. If this woman is not indicted for her crimes, then the only explanation will be that Barack Obama and his administration are thoroughly corrupt.
NOT A RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY!!!!
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Old 01-30-2016, 06:04 AM
 
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Keep in mind, for some people to feel better, they must strive to find any phony scandal in a storm...
You are a victim of Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton made you less safe by protecting her secrets on her private email server at the expense of national secrets.

Instead of blaming the police, in this case an Obama appointee, blame the one that did you wrong.
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Old 01-30-2016, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Alabama
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All this with the e-mails the FBI has, imagine what was on the e mails she had deleted.
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Old 01-30-2016, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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You are a victim of Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton made you less safe by protecting her secrets on her private email server at the expense of national secrets.

Instead of blaming the police, in this case an Obama appointee, blame the one that did you wrong.
Hillary is calling for them to be released... Sorry to step on your "facts" .
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Old 01-30-2016, 06:35 AM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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Hillary is calling for them to be released... Sorry to step on your "facts" .
Good, I'm really wanting the cookie recipe and the wife would like to know the color of the drapes in the living room.

Finally, some justice!
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