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Old 02-04-2016, 11:59 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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That's affirmative!

That happens everyday if not every second. Life is that way and has been that way for as long as there were human.
And that makes it okay?

By your (il)logic, since men have been killing men "for as long as there were human", murder is okay, eh? I guess you wouldn't bat an eye if a loved one was gunned down on the street, just smile and say "Happens every day".
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Old 02-04-2016, 12:00 PM
 
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I would say withholding life saving drugs for whatever reason is a form of conspiratorial or premeditated murder and the perpetrator should be tried for that crime. The next person that dies because they could not afford that drug is his first victim and I expect it to be the first of many.


In a just world he would be found guilty of premeditated murder and stripped of all of his wealth, infected with AIDS and denied any care what so ever. That is the only way he would really pay for this crime.
The problem is all the pharmaceutical companies, insurance company and the government would be tried for this crime! They are freaking doing this every single day!!!
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Old 02-04-2016, 12:01 PM
 
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And that makes it okay?

By your (il)logic, since men have been killing men "for as long as there were human", murder is okay, eh?
You really need to speak to your insurance company and the government as they are doing it every single day. If you call that murder, let's put all of them on trial.
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Old 02-04-2016, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Houston
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You've just been told you need a very delicate operation that's only performed by one surgeon in the world. the surgeon informs you his fee will be every one of your material possessions, the alternative is death. You'll be fine with that, correct?
The problem with your analogy is another company quickly came in with a drug priced lower than the original price the *******s company was charging.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...-a6705456.html
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Old 02-04-2016, 12:04 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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You really need to speak to your insurance company and the government as they are doing it every single day. If you call that murder, let's put all of them on trial.

You really need to look inside and decide whether "Happens everyday" is truly justification for things as you allege.

Many, many things like death from minor diseases used to "Happen everyday" but no longer do because some people were smart enough to realize they could and did change things. I guess you'd have us believe they were wasting their time, eh?
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Old 02-04-2016, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Does not surprise me. Anyone who would gouge prices for medicine doesn't care about anyone.
That describes virtually the entirety of the American drug-insurance-medical industry. It's why we have worse outcomes but exorbitantly higher (per capita) costs for healthcare than any other developed nation.
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Old 02-04-2016, 12:05 PM
 
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You really need to look inside and decide whether "Happens everyday" is truly justification for things as you allege.
Go talk to a cancer patient please. There are many many many many lifesaving medicines priced out of the reach of those patients and every insurance company refuses to cover them.

My good friend is a terminal cancer doctor. That's what she faces everyday. Her patient can't afford the drug which can sustain his/her life for another month, the patient dies.

So yes, it happens everyday. If you think it's wrong, what have you done to correct that?
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Old 02-04-2016, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Georgia
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He'll probably do a few months in a country club prison- at most. Greedy white collar criminals rarely get justice.
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Old 02-04-2016, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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LOL. Literally thousands and thousands of lifesaving medicines are priced out of the reach of those who desperately need them. That happens all the time if not everybody. Have you talked to any cancer patients lately or even your mom? Does her insurance company covers everything? Any lifesaving medicines the insurance company doesn't cover?

On the other hand, you have no problem with the government and the insurance companies deciding what lifesaving medicines we are allowed to buy or even deciding you should live or not. That's just beautiful, isn't it?

Well in this particular case it was within reach until he dramatically increased the cost because he indicated that he needed to cover research costs when in reality he had to cover his rear end.


Yes there are some drugs that are extremely expensive duh.
some are legitimately priced some are not quite that.


The point I was making was the artificial inflation of drugs at the expense of patients. Many life saving drugs in Canada and other countries cost a fraction of what we pay.
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Old 02-04-2016, 12:17 PM
 
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Well in this particular case it was within reach until he dramatically increased the cost because he indicated that he needed to cover research costs when in reality he had to cover his rear end.


Yes there are some drugs that are extremely expensive duh.
some are legitimately priced some are not quite that.


The point I was making was the artificial inflation of drugs at the expense of patients. Many life saving drugs in Canada and other countries cost a fraction of what we pay.
Again, talk to the drug companies please. They ALL artificially inflate their prices. For that matter, ALL non-charity businesses, I do mean ALL, artificially inflate their prices.

What do you mean "legitimately priced? Was his drug not legitimately priced? What law did he break for pricing his drug, asking this again?
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