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Old 02-08-2016, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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Remember how Republicans insisted that the end was nigh in the state of Washington? That when Seattle raised its minimum wage to $15/hour, it spelled economic doom?

Seattle Set To Destroy Economy With Highest Minimum Wage Increase In The World - Townhall

Well, now once again we see conservative dogma dashed to smithereens on the rocks of reality.

Business Insider: Washington’s economy ranks No. 1 in the nation — Politics News

And how have Republicans responded to the fact that, once again, the way the real world works is completely different from the way in works in the imaginations of Republicans?

Republicans Silent as Seattle's Economy Booming With Higher Minimum Wage

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Old 02-08-2016, 01:59 PM
 
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So?

What would happen if Bill Gates moved offshore?
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Old 02-08-2016, 02:13 PM
 
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Remember how Republicans insisted that the end was nigh in the state of Washington?
No.

Did you miss the Sesame Street episode where they explain the difference between Cities and States?
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Old 02-08-2016, 02:14 PM
 
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So?

What would happen if Bill Gates moved offshore?
And Boeing moved the rest of its activity to S.C.
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Old 02-08-2016, 02:20 PM
 
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Of course. It's where all the stolen loot from millions of tax victims ends up.
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Old 02-08-2016, 02:22 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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How many people are actually employed at minimum wage? I believe the number is pretty small. So how can something that affects a small number of people be credited for boosting a state's economy?
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Old 02-08-2016, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Itinerant
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Remember how Republicans insisted that the end was nigh in the state of Washington? That when Seattle raised its minimum wage to $15/hour, it spelled economic doom?

Seattle Set To Destroy Economy With Highest Minimum Wage Increase In The World - Townhall

Well, now once again we see conservative dogma dashed to smithereens on the rocks of reality.

Business Insider: Washington’s economy ranks No. 1 in the nation — Politics News

And how have Republicans responded to the fact that, once again, the way the real world works is completely different from the way in works in the imaginations of Republicans?

Republicans Silent as Seattle's Economy Booming With Higher Minimum Wage
It's a little too soon to declare victory.

First it's staged, currently under 500 employees need to pay $12/hr, over $13/hr it will rise to $15 in seven years for small employers and four for large.

Second it has not even been in place for a year, until we have comparative data before and after it's a little soon to draw any conclusions. Even after April the effects can have a longer term impact, we'll see in another 14-26 months

Third Washington is not Seattle.

Finally of course a lot of the economic drivers in Seattle are already exceeding minimum wage salaries. Amazon, Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc. who have offices in Seattle are employing people who don't crack an eyelid for less than $35/hour, $50/hour might get them out of bed. It's an market that of all markets in the US could afford to take that hit, if the same was done in Detroit, well, it may not go as well. All economies are not the same in the US and all cannot deal with disruptions of the sort that a minimum wage to $15/hour causes as Seattle may do.

The last article makes an interesting observation, January-May is slow season for restaurants and catering. Last year was the first year of the law, this year we'll see whether the gains are as high as last year or not, people have had an opportunity to try on the increases last year and can better predict their bottom lines from the adjustments needed in salaries and pricing. That said it doesn't stop them trumpeting the perceived win, but as I said at the beginning, it's a little too early to declare victory.
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Old 02-08-2016, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Inland Northwest
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It's a little too soon to declare victory.

First it's staged, currently under 500 employees need to pay $12/hr, over $13/hr it will rise to $15 in seven years for small employers and four for large.

Second it has not even been in place for a year, until we have comparative data before and after it's a little soon to draw any conclusions. Even after April the effects can have a longer term impact, we'll see in another 14-26 months

Third Washington is not Seattle.

Finally of course a lot of the economic drivers in Seattle are already exceeding minimum wage salaries. Amazon, Google, Apple, Microsoft, etc. who have offices in Seattle are employing people who don't crack an eyelid for less than $35/hour, $50/hour might get them out of bed. It's an market that of all markets in the US could afford to take that hit, if the same was done in Detroit, well, it may not go as well. All economies are not the same in the US and all cannot deal with disruptions of the sort that a minimum wage to $15/hour causes as Seattle may do.

The last article makes an interesting observation, January-May is slow season for restaurants and catering. Last year was the first year of the law, this year we'll see whether the gains are as high as last year or not, people have had an opportunity to try on the increases last year and can better predict their bottom lines from the adjustments needed in salaries and pricing. That said it doesn't stop them trumpeting the perceived win, but as I said at the beginning, it's a little too early to declare victory.

Oh man, a reasoned response? Who wants one of those can't you see the OP wants to spike the football? I mean, I can't imagine how long the OP was waiting to post that chirping crickets gif....that's really-really-really clever. I mean really. Clever.
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Old 02-08-2016, 03:25 PM
 
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And Boeing moved the rest of its activity to S.C.
To my understanding, this happened before there was any talk of raising the minimum wage to $15. In Boeing's case, I doubt they paid much, or any, of their workers below $15 in the first place.
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Old 02-08-2016, 03:47 PM
 
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Remember how Republicans insisted that the end was nigh in the state of Washington? That when Seattle raised its minimum wage to $15/hour, it spelled economic doom?
Seatle minimum wage is $11, not $15.

Come back to us when Seattle has finally reached $15.
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