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Old 02-10-2016, 01:14 PM
 
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Why?
Because otherwise, it's just QE that devalues the dollar.
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Old 02-10-2016, 01:32 PM
 
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So a reporter at the WaPo claims the future unfunded liabilities is closer to $30 Trillion, because he is only adding SS + Medicare unfunded liabilities.

However, he fails to make a rebuttal to the over 1,000 economists and 15 Nobel Laureates that are flat out saying that he is wrong. He even fails to address the fact that he is blatantly ignoring other federal unfunded liabilities.



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Why is your reporter choosing not to respond, but keeping his position the same?


Bottom Line: we have a severe financial problem.
Good point.

We should be subtracting accumulating unfunded liabilities from GDP.
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Old 02-10-2016, 01:44 PM
 
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Good point.

We should be subtracting accumulating unfunded liabilities from GDP.
More like subtracting them from National Assets as an accounting exercise.

Yours would more apply to personal, business or a state's predicament.

But not nationally, as nationally we are monetarily sovereign.

Nationally we can fund any future liability. And by the act of that funding, produce more GDP.

On personal or business level we cannot typically do that as most of us have relatively fixed future money potential. Few win lotteries or develop blockbuster drugs.
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Old 02-10-2016, 01:47 PM
 
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More like subtracting them from National Assets as an accounting exercise.

Yours would more apply to personal, business or a state's predicament.

But not nationally, as nationally we are monetarily sovereign.
Why don't we just skip the Federal Reserve and the debts accrued via such, and have the Treasury just print money outright?
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Old 02-10-2016, 01:57 PM
 
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Why don't we just skip the Federal Reserve and the debts accrued via such, and have the Treasury just print money outright?
I would say because the powers that be will prevent it!
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Old 02-10-2016, 01:59 PM
 
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I would say because the powers that be will prevent it!
Think beyond that...
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Old 02-10-2016, 02:07 PM
 
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Think beyond that...
Have been doing just that the last 10 years...
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Old 02-10-2016, 02:10 PM
 
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All we have to do is Federalize the Federal Reserve and the entire debt
can be paid off.

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Old 02-10-2016, 02:14 PM
 
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Have been doing just that the last 10 years...
Then why did the Federal Reserve have to do QE?
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Old 02-10-2016, 02:29 PM
 
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Then why did the Federal Reserve have to do QE?
Bail out the banks and financials. Lower interest rates. Hoped to increase lending by banks.
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