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Old 02-12-2016, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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IMHO - Bush accomplished the most successful and elaborate murder ever. He had Saddam Hussein killed and got away with it. Now that is real power.
Saddam was not murdered. He was tried and executed and not by a U.S. court or U.S. military tribunal.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Always with these deflections. Congress ok'd the war based on flimsy intel provided by the Bush administration, not to mention BS tales of mushroom clouds and nonexistent WMD. We were all sold a bunch of lies.

The Iraq War was Bush's baby, and he will forever own it. That's a bug reason why you rarely see Bush these days--even he knows what a screw-up he waa. His entire presidency was one of the costliest blunders in US history.
It was the same intelligence the Clinton Administration was using! Were the Democrats which were making the same claims "lying," too?
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Old 02-12-2016, 08:23 PM
 
Location: West Texas
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I see this thread is full of the usual suspects. Monday morning quarterbacks spouting revisionist history from msnbc. If any president should quietly fade away, it should be Obama. Unfortunately, his narcissistic personality won't allow that and we'll have to suffer his monosyllabic incoherences for who knows how long.
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And what does this post have to do with George W. Bush?
Really?....
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Old 02-12-2016, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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If W doesn't help, he can trot out his dada. Or he can talk about his grandfather, the Nazi sympathizer. What a family...
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Old 02-12-2016, 10:34 PM
 
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"he is a decent guy but a terrible President."

I disagree.

"Contrary, Clinton was a great President but has questionable character."

I REALLY disagree with this claim.

Clinton WAS a terrible President AND a terrible person with despicable character.
Really? The economy was really good during the Clinton years. Seems to have gone downhill ever since.
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Old 02-13-2016, 01:00 AM
 
Location: Houston
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He's responsible for more deaths than 100K, even the most conservative estimates are 125K deaths resulting from the invasion he ordered, and that is most certainly on the low end of the death meter. Other sources are around 500 to 600K. He is also responsible for the migration of over 5 million people, who were forced to flee for their lives due to sectarian fighting, many losing everything they had.

And then there is those ISIS fella's….
It was Obama that undermined Syria's and Libya's dictators. Bipartisan stupidity here if you were not wearing partisan blinders you could see it.
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Old 02-13-2016, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Really? The economy was really good during the Clinton years. Seems to have gone downhill ever since.
It was between the Cold War and the War on Terror. Thank RR for ending the Cold War.
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:06 AM
 
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Always with these deflections. Congress ok'd the war based on flimsy intel provided by the Bush administration, not to mention BS tales of mushroom clouds and nonexistent WMD. We were all sold a bunch of lies.

The Iraq War was Bush's baby, and he will forever own it. That's a bug reason why you rarely see Bush these days--even he knows what a screw-up he waa. His entire presidency was one of the costliest blunders in US history.
"Always with these deflections"

YOU are the one DEFLECTING.

I guess next you will say that Bush "forced" all those dems to say all those "lies" LONG before he ever came onto the scene.

And Bush FORCED Clinton to sign the act for a regime change in Iraq.

"That's a bug reason why you rarely see Bush these days"

It has been common practice that when a President leaves office he stays out of the limelight, unless you are an attention hog like Clinton.
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:07 AM
 
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Really? The economy was really good during the Clinton years. Seems to have gone downhill ever since.
You need to go back and study history!
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:39 AM
 
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Me neither. It's been 7 years since this man left the highest office in the land, and he has made hardly any public appearances. In fact, you can count on one hand how many times he has been seen, and heard, in public.

I find this strange because he was practically worshipped by Republicans for 8 years, his deep Christian faith, his hawkish military adventurism in Iraq, and his defense of traditional marriage had the entire conservative base in the U.S. practically swoon on his every spoken word.

Now all you hear is the sound of crickets. Why is he not out firing up the base on behalf of his brother's flagging aspirations for President? Very, very strange that a man who once had rock star status with the conservative base is now completely forgotten.

Why is this?
The reason the public doesn't seem him is that he doesn't want to be seen. It's one of the areas (post-presidency decorum) where GWB has really distinguished himself as compared to Carter and, even worse, Clinton. You can even see it in his rising favorability numbers as opposed to right when he left office. Remember, GWB is not a bad guy -- people just thought that about him b/c it's the narrative that was shoved down their throats 24/7. People are now realizing this for themselves now that the frequency of hit pieces about him have decreased. If a hit piece on him is written now, readers will realize that the author is a POS and hold it against the author instead of allowing it to negatively influence their opinion of GWB.

Love him or hate him, I would argue that it's difficult to make the case that he has not conducted himself in an admirable manner after leaving office. He never said one word in retaliation or in his defense when Obama was new to office and constantly trashing him (talking about what he inherited, etc.). IMO, it shows that he is less megalomaniacal than some of his former-president peers and focuses on the country, as opposed to himself. There's a reason Slick Willie is not as effective in campaigning as he once was -- his glory days are long gone and it seems like he (and some of his sycophants in the media) are the only ones who fail to realize it.

I would recommend this route for all former presidents. Unless there is a reason (which is very rare), the less we see of them the better.
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