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Old 02-17-2016, 01:44 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I see that Donald Trump has weighed in on this issue, and he is against Apple:


Trump slams Apple resistance in San Bernardino case - UPI.com


Will Trump supporters be aghast? Will they support his position? Or will those Trump supporters inhabiting this thread change their previously held opinions?


We shall see.


Scalia's death told me Trump was not in my vision anymore.
We need someone constitutional to appoint a constitutionalist, in it's original intent.
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Old 02-17-2016, 01:46 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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They are appealing, the courts will decide but here you are back to guns, give it a break Charlton Heston.

How else will they force anyone to do anything?
How can I force you to do something you are dead set against?
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Old 02-17-2016, 01:53 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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kidnappers, rapists, drug traffickers, terror cells, (foreign and American), sex-trafficking organziations, Sony studios hackers all rose up to clap. Are they innocent in our utopian land?

The innocent are the 14 dead in SB. The 100+ in Paris but you don't count them since they don't fall under the U.S. constitution but they are a western country ALLY and number one tourist spot for Americans.

The innocent citizens are trying to fight Cyber-crimes and yet they should leave this phone as a safe haven for them? c'mon.

I don't agree with tapping/collecting data 100% either, but there are cases where it's warranted.
Is Apple saying no to letting a Fed sit there while an Apple engineer retrieves the data? They should at least get the data from a dead terrorist. Murderers should not be allowed privacy rights for communication.

Well, it is 50/50 in this debate per the media.
Disclosure: Owner of Samsung Galaxy

Their are 14 dead, because our government has mentally disarmed people just like you!
If government allowed us our 2nd amendment rights, to self protection, and quit brain washing people like you, that the idea is bad. there may have been 2 dead, instead of 14...... Evil, is still evil.
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Old 02-17-2016, 02:17 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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So what happens if the case goes all the way to SCOTUS and they tell Apple to comply with the lower court order and Apple refuses?

Why, except is a few cases of National Security, does anyone need to encrypt their smart phones.
Why does anyone need an AR? Especially one with an 80% lower and no serial number. It's none of their $#% business in either the phone or my 80%er.
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Old 02-17-2016, 02:28 PM
 
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this leaves a lot of opportunity for hackers/software developers out there to do it. Obviously there's demand for it.
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Old 02-17-2016, 02:31 PM
 
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this leaves a lot of opportunity for hackers/software developers out there to do it. Obviously there's demand for it.
There is a huge demand for heroin too, doesn't make it legal. Same applies here....unless of course the government wants to force you to do it under the guise of keeping us safe from terrorists.

Plus this underscores how tight the security is on an iPhone. It hasn't been done yet because its not exactly easy, and requires proprietary information....so forcing Apple to do it opens a huge can of worms and makes it easier for others to figure it out.
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Old 02-17-2016, 02:32 PM
 
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this leaves a lot of opportunity for hackers/software developers out there to do it. Obviously there's demand for it.
do what - hack an iPhone? so why make it easier for them?
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Old 02-17-2016, 02:36 PM
 
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Scalia's death told me Trump was not in my vision anymore.
We need someone constitutional to appoint a constitutionalist, in it's original intent.
So you're not voting?
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Old 02-17-2016, 02:37 PM
 
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There is a huge demand for heroin too, doesn't make it legal. Same applies here....unless of course the government wants to force you to do it under the guise of keeping us safe from terrorists.

Plus this underscores how tight the security is on an iPhone. It hasn't been done yet because its not exactly easy, and requires proprietary information....so forcing Apple to do it opens a huge can of worms and makes it easier for others to figure it out.
It does no such thing, if you can't figure it out with the OS now a new decrypted one won't do anything for you either, because just like you said, it's proprietary.. The iOS ALREADY decrypts the device or you wouldn't be able to access it. Apple is full of **** when they say they can't. It's already a part of their damn OS. Do you think the government is going to confiscate billions of iPhones and install this decrypted OS on them just for the hell of it or do you think that they will be able to install the OS remotely on anyone's iPhone at will? Both scenarios are complete BS.
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Old 02-17-2016, 02:37 PM
 
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For crying out loud, this is for the children. How many people need to die? Why is Apple being so difficult? What do they have to hide? Why doesn't anybody need encryption?
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