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Old 02-17-2016, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I found Apple's challenge to this rather odd since it was a court order, they believe that this would set a precedent and expand over time.


"SAN FRANCISCO — Apple said on Wednesday that it would oppose and challenge a federal court order to help the F.B.I. unlock an iPhone used by one of the two attackers who killed 14 people in San Bernardino, Calif., in December.


On Tuesday, in a significant victory for the government, Magistrate Judge Sheri Pym of the Federal District Court for the District of Central California ordered Apple to bypass security functions on an iPhone 5c used by Syed Rizwan Farook, who was killed by the police along with his wife, Tashfeen Malik, after they attacked Mr. Farook’s co-workers at a holiday gathering."


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/18/te...=top-news&_r=0
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:14 AM
 
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Good for Apple.
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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Good for Apple.


The government will just pass a law making it illegal for data to be encrypted such that it cannot be retrieved by law enforcement. This is the same as when the government sued UBS and other swiss banks that refused to turn over secret bank info of American customers.
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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It's not as simple as unlocking the phone. They'd be forced to build special software and judges shouldn't be forcing companies to do that.
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:25 AM
 
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It's not as simple as unlocking the phone. They'd be forced to build special software and judges shouldn't be forcing companies to do that.


I agree, but the next OS upgrade can be required to remove the feature. Auto companies are forced to implement features such as airbags for safety and emissions systems for smog.
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:31 AM
 
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Apple is wrong on this. They have no right to intentionally hide things from law enforcement. Once the phone is purchased by someone it is their property and LE has every right to get into it for evidence especially with a court order, encryption or not. Tim Cook is just trying to keep his name in the news.
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:31 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I found Apple's challenge to this rather odd since it was a court order, they believe that this would set a precedent and expand over time.


"SAN FRANCISCO — Apple said on Wednesday that it would oppose and challenge a federal court order to help the F.B.I. unlock an iPhone used by one of the two attackers who killed 14 people in San Bernardino, Calif., in December.


On Tuesday, in a significant victory for the government, Magistrate Judge Sheri Pym of the Federal District Court for the District of Central California ordered Apple to bypass security functions on an iPhone 5c used by Syed Rizwan Farook, who was killed by the police along with his wife, Tashfeen Malik, after they attacked Mr. Farook’s co-workers at a holiday gathering."


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/18/te...=top-news&_r=0

I support Apple!

Yes, it would be good to have the encrypted phone unencrypted, but, that is what government gets for violating the 4th amendment so much in the past. The people will find a way to protect themselves from government intrusion.

Let government figure how to unencrypt it. I bet money, apple cannot unencrypt it themselves, because they wanted the most secure communications on the planet.
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:32 AM
 
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I agree, but the next OS upgrade can be required to remove the feature. Auto companies are forced to implement features such as airbags for safety and emissions systems for smog.
remove what? It's not like it will be rolled out to every iphone user. It will be for LE in situations like this.
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:33 AM
 
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I support Apple!

Yes, it would be good to have the encrypted phone unencrypted, but, that is what government gets for violating the 4th amendment so much in the past. The people will find a way to protect themselves from government intrusion.

Let government figure how to unencrypt it. I bet money, apple cannot unencrypt it themselves, because they wanted the most secure communications on the planet.
I will take you up on that bet. They absolutely can decrypt it. They have the keys to do so, they had to have them in order to encrypt it in the first place.
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Old 02-17-2016, 07:36 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Apple is wrong on this. They have no right to intentionally hide things from law enforcement. Once the phone is purchased by someone it is their property and LE has every right to get into it for evidence especially with a court order, encryption or not. Tim Cook is just trying to keep his name in the news.

Then let LE, break the encryption.
Forcing Apple to would be a breach of the Constitution and the essence of individual freedom.
The 4th Amendment is more powerful than, the US Government.

Talk about authoritarianism and leans toward communist tactic, by our own government official, that feels they are unbiased.
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