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Beringia, formerly known as the "land bridge" from Siberia to Alaska, was swamped millenia ago, from the end of the Ice Age. Was that from the internal combustion engine?
Try 230 feet, and if they reach that level there will be many more cities under the seas (It would cover all coastal cities)....Nobody is saying that rising oceans are going to wipe out humans, but it would be damned inconvenient and very expensive
Hahaha....so the seas are rising, and you're going to do something to stop that. Oooooookay. You're going to write about it on the internet every day, is all that you're going to do.
Hahaha....so the seas are rising, and you're going to do something to stop that. Oooooookay. You're going to write about it on the internet every day, is all that you're going to do.
They will tax you to keep their gravy train going.
Beringia, formerly known as the "land bridge" from Siberia to Alaska, was swamped millenia ago, from the end of the Ice Age. Was that from the internal combustion engine?
Neanderthals just invented fire at that time. Gore must have your money.
Try 230 feet, and if they reach that level there will be many more cities under the seas (It would cover all coastal cities)....Nobody is saying that rising oceans are going to wipe out humans, but it would be damned inconvenient and very expensive
So using the worst case scenario and then fixating on it, as so many pro-AGW do, is healthy?
You said we should start getting boats ready for our grandchildren, and then admit the worst possible melt would max at 230 feet. Hardly a "great flood" scenario.
The charts and data used are from reputable sources such as Popular Science, PSMSL...etc.
Ocean rise is steady at about 9-10 inches per century. SO, the worst case scenario is that in 3000 years, all the ice will have melted. That far in the future makes worrying about it now rather absurd.
National Geographic claims that it is between 4-8 inches over the last century, but adds that it has increased from about 2mm year to 3.2mm yr over the last two decades. If this is the case then they are claiming (remember it's science to fit the theory) the rise will be about 12 inches per century.
So, using their data it'll only take 2600 years for all the ice to melt.
I was being taught in grade school about how the seas are rising and some small pacific islands will disappear... and here we are 40 years later and those same islands are miraculously still there.
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To me, many of the responses are strong evidence that the levels of willful ignorance in America are rising.
The same can be said on both sides. The problem is that only one side is arguing for complete and total acceptance, by force if need be.
Amazing how clarity and tolerance stops at an alternative thought or opinion.
So using the worst case scenario and then fixating on it, as so many pro-AGW do, is healthy?
You said we should start getting boats ready for our grandchildren, and then admit the worst possible melt would max at 230 feet. Hardly a "great flood" scenario.
The charts and data used are from reputable sources such as Popular Science, PSMSL...etc.
Ocean rise is steady at about 9-10 inches per century. SO, the worst case scenario is that in 3000 years, all the ice will have melted. That far in the future makes worrying about it now rather absurd.
National Geographic claims that it is between 4-8 inches over the last century, but adds that it has increased from about 2mm year to 3.2mm yr over the last two decades. If this is the case then they are claiming (remember it's science to fit the theory) the rise will be about 12 inches per century.
So, using their data it'll only take 2600 years for all the ice to melt.
I was being taught in grade school about how the seas are rising and some small pacific islands will disappear... and here we are 40 years later and those same islands are miraculously still there.
Therein lies the issue: who one wants to believe, vs just letting the numbers speak for themselves.
I'm sure someone will now 'discredit' NatGeo and or Popular Science. They are 'skeptics'. Even though, in the NatGeo article, they don't do they math, instead jumping to a predictive model of worst case scenario in regards to rising seas by 2100.
Therein lies the issue: who one wants to believe, vs just letting the numbers speak for themselves.
I'm sure someone will now 'discredit' NatGeo and or Popular Science. They are 'skeptics'. Even though, in the NatGeo article, they don't do they math, instead jumping to a predictive model of worst case scenario in regards to rising seas by 2100.
This is the way predictive science works. 25 years ago, it was 2050 and this simply isn't going to materialize so, now they claim 2100 and when that fails in a few decades it'll be 2300, and so on, and so on...etc. (blah, blah, blah)
At some point the earth will go into an extreme solar minimum and we'll see another little ice age. It happens about every 18-20k years so it is inevitable. At that point the AGW crowd (and they will still be there stealing cream) will conveniently go from man made warming to man made cooling. They simply apply their science to predict whatever it is that will keep the research cash flowing.
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