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Old 03-15-2016, 02:47 PM
 
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No insult. You told me definitively that weather /= climate. So I defer to your expertise and ask you to explain it.

So please do.
Weather is the condition of the atmosphere at a particular place over a short period of time, whereas climate refers to the weather pattern of a place over a long period, long enough to yield meaningful averages. Meteorology studies weather, while climatology studies climate; both are atmospheric sciences.

 
Old 03-15-2016, 02:50 PM
 
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Weather is the condition of the atmosphere at a particular place over a short period of time, whereas climate refers to the weather pattern of a place over a long period, long enough to yield meaningful averages. Meteorology studies weather, while climatology studies climate; both are atmospheric sciences.
This is political science

Voting for the establishment is a vote for climate change
They will put the people first when Hell freezes over.
 
Old 03-15-2016, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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But... Obama said he was going to reduce sea level rise?

You mean he failed?

We're all gonna drown!
 
Old 03-15-2016, 03:14 PM
 
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But... Obama said he was going to reduce sea level rise?

You mean he failed?

We're all gonna drown!
No, Obama probably did reduce sea level rise over what it would have been under McCain/Romney, but much less than would have been possible if he hadn't been blocked whenever possible by the Koch-controlled Republican puppets and their legions of Fox News-watching climate change deniers.

Has Obama Fulfilled His Promise on Carbon Emissions? - The New Yorker

You might drown, but much of the U.S. will be well above the new sea levels.

If all of the world's ice melts, we'll see sea levels over 200 feet higher, and likely more as the oceans warm and consequentially expand (you did take general science, didn't you; it's not obvious).

Rising Seas - Interactive: If All The Ice Melted

Of course, we might be drowning in new Americans and the Midwest overrun by evacuees.
 
Old 03-15-2016, 03:28 PM
 
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Weather is the condition of the atmosphere at a particular place over a short period of time, whereas climate refers to the weather pattern of a place over a long period, long enough to yield meaningful averages. Meteorology studies weather, while climatology studies climate; both are atmospheric sciences.
Indeed. I'm glad you said that. So here's a question for you.

Several 10s of million years ago, Antarctica had palm trees and Kansas was under a big sea in the middle of North America. This was before humans existed.

So the question is this. Who or what caused that climate change?
 
Old 03-15-2016, 03:42 PM
 
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Indeed. I'm glad you said that. So here's a question for you.

Several 10s of million years ago, Antarctica had palm trees and Kansas was under a big sea in the middle of North America. This was before humans existed.

So the question is this. Who or what caused that climate change?
Super volcanos, asteroids or obviously extra terrestrials
 
Old 03-15-2016, 04:00 PM
 
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Climate is never stable and never has been. It's wasn't 3 billion years ago and won't be 3 billion years from now.
 
Old 03-15-2016, 04:11 PM
 
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Indeed. I'm glad you said that. So here's a question for you.

Several 10s of million years ago, Antarctica had palm trees and Kansas was under a big sea in the middle of North America. This was before humans existed.

So the question is this. Who or what caused that climate change?
and I presume you ask that because you don't think man is responsible for the current change in the climate?
 
Old 03-15-2016, 04:18 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Currently 75.2 degrees here in NC in early March.

Climate change is great.
Will be 70 degrees in Philadelphia tomorrow; but we already had three days in row with 70+ temperatures in the past 10 days. "Springtime" is in full flush ... daffodils, forsythias, cherry trees, magnolias, redbuds ... in bloom. Spring doesn't 'officially' begin for 5 more days.

I'm told that coconut palm trees are beginning to sprout on the Jersey shore ...

I hear the groundhog, Punxsutawny Phil, is going to retire because winters in Pennsylvania will always be over within a few weeks of Groundhog Day.
 
Old 03-15-2016, 04:20 PM
 
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Indeed. I'm glad you said that. So here's a question for you.

Several 10s of million years ago, Antarctica had palm trees and Kansas was under a big sea in the middle of North America. This was before humans existed.

So the question is this. Who or what caused that climate change?
The scientists have explanations. My memory is that massive volcanic activity was responsible.

Solar radiation definitely has an impact, and an extended solar minimum conceivably could offset even the impact of man-made carbon emissions for several centuries.

More recent history is more relevant than ancient earth history.

http://water.usgs.gov/edu/sealevel.html

What scientists have predicted, very accurately, in the absence of other factors, human greenhouse gas emissions will be devastating.

Some scientists are even more frightened than you might imagine, because most projections haven't factored in the consequences of the release of the world's massive reserves of potential methane, a super greenhouse gas compared to carbon dioxide.

Methane release from melting permafrost could trigger dangerous global warming | John Abraham | Environment | The Guardian

Melting Permafrost in the Arctic: A Tale of Two Feedbacks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis

Aren't the above articles just hilarious?????

Maybe we should cut climate change research funding or put a gag order (popular with Republicans in states such as FL and NC) on discussion of the research findings.

Since when does ignorance and unwillingness (laziness?) to do research serve as clever skepticism?
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