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Old 02-24-2016, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Got a problem with it? All you gotta do is repeal the 2nd Amendment and we can "modernize" our right to bear arms or lack thereof. If you can't repeal the 2nd Amendment, then you don't to get to rewrite the rules to suit your personal opinions.
And that is the focal point of all the cyber-ink spilled on this, and many other threads. The driving force behind the vast majority of human progress (with a couple of regrettable exceptions like slavery and the displacement of Native peoples) was the desire for a better life by people who either couldn't get it in class-conscious Europe, or were encouraged to leave. Left to their own resources in a potentially-hostile environment, the possession of a weapon, for hunting as well as defense, was an essential.

The principal component of the outcry against gun ownership arises from people who have spent the majority of their lives in our over-sanitized cities, and their even-more-sheltered suburbs, and apparently have far less distrust of over-centralized Federal power (or quite possibly, see themselves as beneficiaries wielding more of that power, than as having anything to lose). I don't want to be one of the "guinea pigs" in a "societal experiment", thanks!

Gun ownership -- the right of a responsible citizen to own one (if (s)he desires, and personally, I don't) vs the desires of another group to legislate "security" (and I have absolutely NO faith in that idea) -- is the single most prominent issue within the nation's current polarization; the "test case' that one day might lead to a Czech-Slovak or Norse-Swedish inspired "friendly parting". I hope it never comes to something like that, but if so, I have no doubt whatsoever of which half has the better answer; of which will prosper and which will stagnate.

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Old 02-24-2016, 01:18 PM
 
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Like gun lovers comparing the killing ability of guns toi a Chevy or a Ford?
Is equating the ownership of a weapon to "love" a mental illness? I find that people who use words like love, or "ammosexual" (seen posted here on C-D) or other sexual references to those who own guns to have some kind of internal fixation with either the weapons themselves, which seem to represent something phallic to those using the sexually charged terms or such people have an unnatural fear/attraction/obsession with owners of guns.

I also find it interesting that most of those people who sexualize guns or gun owners, always start with the assumption that gun owners are men.

To paraphrase Shakespeare, "Me thinks thou doth protest too much!"
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Old 02-24-2016, 01:19 PM
 
Location: MS
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We all might be safe with the Pink BB gun.......after all, it is all about women sticking together for any cause.


Liberals made Barbie any size, took away GI Joe and Ken.....well, we all know what happened to Ken.
Everyone knows that if you get a BB gun you will put your eye out.
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Old 02-24-2016, 01:23 PM
 
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Like a democrat in the White House?
We all need to take a minute and bathe in the wisdom and majesty of this response.

You sir, have won the internets today!
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Old 02-24-2016, 01:26 PM
 
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Most of these killers had an arsenal at home. MOst gun lovers tend to have many guns and buy ammunition in large quantities.
You sure seem to think you know a lot about something you obviously know nothing about. I think that anyone who equates gun ownership to "gun loving" should be institutionalized for a 3 day observation period every 3 months.
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Old 02-24-2016, 01:28 PM
 
Location: louisville
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The issue is the mental illness. And anyone can have a mental illness.

However, when a gun enthusiast develops mental illness he may have a proclivity to use the guns he loves. In other words the gun culture plays a role in the abnormal mind of people with mental illness. That is why I always pray a gun lover does not develop mental illness.

When was the last time you saw a non-gunlover go postal? When they go nuts they may do crazy things, but generally they do not have the firepower to do a lot a harm since they may not even know how to handle a pistol or a rifle.
Julian, Julian....

I haven't read through the whole thread so, if this has been asked, I apologize.

what, pray tell, is a 'gun-lover'? Is that like someone who has 'relations' with said gun? Is it someone who takes gun memes? Is it someone who divorces their significant other because of the other 'lover'... said gun?
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Old 02-24-2016, 01:29 PM
 
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If you only like to hunt and do target practice you do not need a gun designed for the military or the police force.
WTH does that even mean?
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Old 02-24-2016, 01:34 PM
 
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We all might be safe with the Pink BB gun.......after all, it is all about women sticking together for any cause.


Liberals made Barbie any size, took away GI Joe and Ken.....well, we all know what happened to Ken.

I have a pink 9mm Diamondback and a PPQ 9mm with a pink handle. Why you gotta hate on the pink??

I want to paint my Mossberg 500 pink, too. Hubby says no.
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Old 02-24-2016, 01:36 PM
 
Location: louisville
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I have a pink 9mm Diamondback and a PPQ 9mm with a pink handle. Why you gotta hate on the pink??

I want to paint my Mossberg 500 pink, too. Hubby says no.
I have a HUGE problem with your pink 9... it's not a .45 Unless of course you keep critical defense rounds loaded in said pink 9mm in which case I gotta give you a thumbs up
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Old 02-24-2016, 01:41 PM
 
Location: louisville
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During the entire history of this nation, the most cutting edge of weapons have been owned by private citizens. Most of the rifles and canons used in the Revolutionary War and even the War of 1812 were owned by private citizens. We didn't have a navy so George Washington bought one himself. Warships, rifles and cannons were cutting edge military technology back then. At what point did cutting edge military tech become illegal and unethical? Yes that probably means that owning an artillery piece, a tank, an M-16, an AR-15, an AA-12, a .50 cal, a fighter jet or a battleship should all be acceptable. That's what the 2nd Amendment says and that's what the founding fathers intended.
When I was young and 'knew' everything, I didn't have an issue if municipalities put a restriction, background checks on assault rifles. I was young and idealistic. I was also in the AF.

Then I actually read about the ballistic physics of a 16 inch battleship gun and how the rifling and powder were the same thing as a modern, full jacket hunting rifle, only bigger. Changed my tune... and my wanting to own a 16 inch battleship turret (and I'm not joking. I'd really like to own one).
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