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Did Sanders ever call Denmark a socialist country? It seems like the only ones calling Denmark a socialist country are right wingers. Sanders would be better described as a Social Democrat, which isn't the same thing as a socialist.
I think he has and then clarified that it is an example of "Democratic Socialism." Bernie has in fact used the phrase "I love Danish Socialism." Which the Danish deny and say some of his ideas are too left for them.
They describe themselves as a free market economy, with far less regulations than Bernie proposes, with a large safety net.
I think he has and then clarified that it is an example of "Democratic Socialism." Bernie has in fact used the phrase "I love Danish Socialism." Which the Danish deny and say some of his ideas are too left for them.
They describe themselves as a free market economy, with far less regulations than Bernie proposes, with a large safety net.
No where in your links does Bernie use the phrase "I love Danish Socialism." Heck, even when you google that phrase nothing shows up.....so the use of the word "Bernie has in fact..." might be a fictional thing.
Now I do agree with the Danes, they are not a socialist country, like right wingers seem to think they are, but they are in fact a social democratic country. It is what most people call the "Nordic Model."
Venezuela was socialist as in the means of production and means of distribution are owned by the government.
OK , once again , Venezuela was not a socialist country the first time its economy went in the tank after becoming an oil rentier state.
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Norway is not a socialist country. The free market developing there in the late 1800s made their economy go from poor to prosperous.
Well then I guess we are just like Norway economically. You had better inform all those conservatives who don't want to be like Norway, a capitalist as you say.
This is the list of Norway's state owned enterprises.
Since I own and have owned rail for example, I guess I just have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Looks like a lot of public control on the basic resources "aka means".
Is it a capitalist failure or perhaps something else?
Political scientists like to talk about the " 'curse' of oil." Over the past several decades, we've seen the sorry economic state of affairs that ensues when tribal kingdoms, authoritarian regimes, kleptocracies, and left-wing dictatorships get their hands on national oil revenues. Easy oil cash entrenches corrupt establishments, discourages sound long-term economic planning, and is almost never channeled in ways that promote development. (This three-part BBC documentary explores the curse of oil.)
Socialism destroyed Sparta, right?
Its been almost 3000 years since elements of humanity has known this. When do we finally start to see the pattern?
For instance, it is evident that the country now called Hellas had in ancient times no settled population; on the contrary, migrations were of frequent occurrence, the several tribes readily abandoning their homes under the pressure of superior numbers. Without commerce, without freedom of communication either by land or sea, cultivating no more of their territory than the exigencies of life required, destitute of capital, never planting their land (for they could not tell when an invader might not come and take it all away, and when he did come they had no walls to stop him), thinking that the necessities of daily sustenance could be supplied at one place as well as another, they cared little for shifting their habitation, and consequently neither built large cities nor attained to any other form of greatness. The richest soils were always most subject to this change of masters; such as the district now called Thessaly, Boeotia, most of the Peloponnese, Arcadia excepted, and the most fertile parts of the rest of Hellas. The goodness of the land favoured the aggrandizement of particular individuals, and thus created faction which proved a fertile source of ruin. It also invited invasion. Accordingly Attica, from the poverty of its soil enjoying from a very remote period freedom from faction, never changed its inhabitants. And here is no inconsiderable exemplification of my assertion that the migrations were the cause of there being no correspondent growth in other parts. The most powerful victims of war or faction from the rest of Hellas took refuge with the Athenians as a safe retreat; and at an early period, becoming naturalized, swelled the already large population of the city to such a height that Attica became at last too small to hold them, and they had to send out colonies to Ionia.
Thucydides
I will grant you this. Socialism is an unmitigated disaster. However the reason is because it is given credit for every economic and social failure in the history of the world , even though its only a few hundred years old. Its turned the Western world into blindly stupid ideologues.
I think he has and then clarified that it is an example of "Democratic Socialism." Bernie has in fact used the phrase "I love Danish Socialism." Which the Danish deny and say some of his ideas are too left for them.
They describe themselves as a free market economy, with far less regulations than Bernie proposes, with a large safety net.
The word "socialism" in the US vernacular is used in a completely different manner than it would in Denmark. Denmark has actual socialist parties with policies of shared ownership of the means of production, dictatorship of the proletariat, genuine Marxists etc. (Always great fun to watch them rationalize showing proper form to Her Majesty.)
It's way harder to properly translate political attitudes between cultures than most people - including Bernie Sanders - seem to think.
Incidentally, I am a politically interested Dane who's lived in the US for over decade - I know everybody's always an expert on the Internet, but this is kinda my home turf.
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