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There are that many making a living, getting paid under the table with non-taxed income(CASH)
Damn!
I bet republicans don't want them on the voter roll call!
You don't need a government issued photo ID in any state to legally work, above the table and paying taxes.
I didn't have an ID for several years while I fought with the state of California to get a copy of my birth certificate (instead of an abstract of birth), and had no problem completing an I-9 using my college ID and social security card.
That's the problem with photo voter laws; they make no exceptions for people in situations like I was, who can prove their identity but cannot be issued photo ID because they came from a state (or country) that restricts access to birth certificates while living in a state that requires a birth certificate to get an ID.
You don't need a government issued photo ID in any state to legally work, above the table and paying taxes.
I didn't have an ID for several years while I fought with the state of California to get a copy of my birth certificate (instead of an abstract of birth), and had no problem completing an I-9 using my college ID and social security card.
That's the problem with photo voter laws; they make no exceptions for people in situations like I was, who can prove their identity but cannot be issued photo ID because they came from a state (or country) that restricts access to birth certificates while living in a state that requires a birth certificate to get an ID.
You need a form of ID(more restrictive than voting) to cash a paycheck or open a bank account for direct pay...
How are those elderly getting SS and medicare without that proof ?
You cannot get SS or medicare without providing proof to the Fed government.
So this is another bogus argument.
https://www.ssa.gov/planners/retire/applying5.html
We may need to see certain documents in order to pay benefits and help us decide how much your benefits should be. The documents you'll need will depend on the circumstances of your claim. The documents we may ask for are:
-your Social Security card (or a record of your number);
-your original birth certificate or other proof of birth (You may also submit a copy of your birth certificate certified by the issuing agency);
-proof of U.S. citizenship or lawful alien status if you were not born in the U.S. [More Info];
-a copy of your U.S. military service paper(s) (e.g., DD-214 - Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty) if you had military service before 1968; and
-a copy of your W-2 form(s) and/or self-employment tax return for last year.
You have to submit an original birth certificate to get a photo ID.
You can submit a certified copy of your birth certificate or an abstract of birth for social security and medicare.
Also, you can get hold W-2 employment without ever having a government issued photo ID (e.g. you can use a school issued ID, abstract of birth, and many other such documents), and then submit that W-2. Or lastly, you can simply pay self-employment tax. You need no proof of identity at all to do that.
So, while you do have to provide proof, there are many many options for proof that do not require a government issued photo ID in any way.
You need a form of ID(more restrictive than voting) to cash a paycheck or open a bank account for direct pay...
No, you don't. I cashed plenty of checks without a government issued ID at check cashing stands. They just hold your first cashed check until it clears. After that, they issue you their own ID card that is allows you to cash on the spot from then on. You take a penalty, of course, for using a paper check, but if it is your only option that is what you do.
Bank accounts are a different thing. But I didn't have a bank account during most of the time I did not have ID and did not need one to cash a check. Some banks, not all, have a secondary identification process where you can use multiple forms of secondary id (school id, abstract of birth, lease, utility bill, W-2, secondary witness, etc) to prove your identity. It takes 30-60 days to open your account when you do that, but it is possible.
I eventually used that process, with two secondary witnesses signing notarized documents affirming my identity and description as well as an abstract of birth, school Id, and I think utilities bills (not sure if I used bills or lease, but I know I used one of those because my name was on one but not the other).
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No, you don't. I cashed plenty of checks without a government issued ID at check cashing stands.
I find that hard to believe. I haven't found that to be true for over 30 years. Banks or "check cashing stands" HAVE to know that the person endorsing the check is the person to which the check is written.
I find that hard to believe. I haven't found that to be true for over 30 years. Banks or "check cashing stands" HAVE to know that the person endorsing the check is the person to which the check is written.
You're mistaken, check cashing outlets (usually also doing business in payday loans) follow the practice she outlined, you take a check in, they hold it until it clears when it does you get your money and an ID you can use in the future to cash checks at that store. And you overlooked a very common way for people without an ID to cash checks, they sign them over to someone who has a bank account, that person deposits it in their account and disburses the cash after the check clears.
Also, the CIP rules provide alternate means of identification for people who want to open a bank account and do not have a photo ID:
This is one example of when a financial institution may open an account without documents. We discuss this further in Part 5. The CIP Rules favor an identity procedure based on documents, but they realize that it is not always possible to have document verification. The Agencies say that financial institutions should incorporate such situations into written procedures.
That's the problem with photo voter laws; they make no exceptions for people in situations like I was, who can prove their identity but cannot be issued photo ID because they came from a state (or country) that restricts access to birth certificates while living in a state that requires a birth certificate to get an ID.
If you do not have photo ID there is going to be many things you will not be able to do like get on a plane. The BC requirement for the the ID is federal law, these laws are recent and the intent is to prevent fraudulent ID's.
That said here in PA they were offering voting only ID's that required less documentation like a tax return, bank statement etc. They were also good for 10 years.
That said here in PA they were offering voting only ID's that required less documentation like a tax return, bank statement etc. They were also good for 10 years.
The judge who struck down the PA voter ID law doesn't agree with you.
In addition, Judge McGinley ruled, the state’s $5 million campaign to explain the law had been full of misinformation that has never been corrected. He also said that the free IDs that were supposed to be made available to those without driver’s licenses or other approved photo identification were difficult and sometimes impossible to obtain.http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/18/us...ruck-down.html
You're mistaken, check cashing outlets (usually also doing business in payday loans) follow the practice she outlined, you take a check in, they hold it until it clears when it does you get your money and an ID you can use in the future to cash checks at that store.
Nope.
Quote:
"Any Currency Exchange can cash the following checks: payroll, government, pension, 401K, rollover, unemployment, workmen’s compensation, insurance, tax refund, cashier checks, money orders, travelers and personal checks. All you need to do is present your photo identification (driver’s license, state ID, passport, armed services card, etc.) and we will take care of the rest!"
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