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Old 02-28-2016, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Nevertheless, here in Colorado I am always asked for a photo ID when I pickup a prescription, and they are not for narcotics.
I have moved a few thousand dollars worth of prescriptions between three pharmacies over the last year without showing anyone anything. You better know your birthday though. I also get a monthly infusion worth a couple of grand and they have not seen photo ID either.

Only time I have had to show photo ID was to buy Ephedrine.

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Old 02-28-2016, 09:22 PM
 
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So basically a state issued national ID.
Not necessarily. Facial recognition or other biometrics would not necessarily need any additional personal identifiable information other than number to reference if there is a discrepancy. The feds would not necessarily have to be involved at all,
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Old 02-28-2016, 09:23 PM
 
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Just go to a bar in any college town and ask the underage students where they got theirs.
Don't forget to ask how much they paid for it. With the latest security enhancements, forging a driver's license is like trying to counterfeit currency.

So a forged official document good enough to fool anyone aint cheap these days, and if you try to use it in a place where it is scanned, as another poster mentioned earlier about their polling place, then the game is up.


An underage college student might pay the money for one of these high quality forgeries once, so they can drink.

There are very few people in this world willing and able to spend all that money for multiple fake IDs bearing someone else's information just to vote more than once. That would be a quite cost prohibitive way to commit voter fraud.

So the ID requirement still holds true.
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Old 02-28-2016, 09:26 PM
 
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Except the OP is a conservative admitting it.
The OP is a conservative making a point, who would never do it.
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Old 02-28-2016, 09:28 PM
 
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Not necessarily. Facial recognition or other biometrics would not necessarily need any additional personal identifiable information other than number to reference if there is a discrepancy. The feds would not necessarily have to be involved at all,
Well if it is a database that stretches from state to state, then that would in fact fall into federal territory. You guys keep beating around the bush for a National ID, just admit that is what you guys want and be done with it.
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Old 02-28-2016, 09:34 PM
 
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I think some of the younger posters on here don't realize that photo ID was not always the norm. I believe it has been fewer than 20 years since NJ made it mandatory to have a photo on your driver's license. New drivers had photos but for the rest of us, the photo version was optional for a long time if you renewed by mail.

People like my mother have been collecting SS since before that.
Well it is now. Better get with the program and get one, or the inability to vote will be the least of your problems.
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Old 02-28-2016, 09:36 PM
 
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She received both medicare and social security for many decades since her husband died. In order to receive them she provided a copy of her birth certificate and her marriage license, there is still no requirement for a photo ID to receive benefits. Any other questions?
Yeah. Why is she too lazy to get her butt down to the DMV with that documentation and get herself an ID card?

Or voting is one of the MANY things she'll have to avoid.

Next?
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Old 02-28-2016, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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you obviously appear deviant or such. I have moved a few thousand dollars worth of prescriptions between three pharmacies over the last year without showing anyone anything. You better know your birthday though. I also get a monthly infusion worth a couple of grand and they have not seen photo ID either.

Only time I have had to show photo ID was to buy Ephedrine.
And I suppose the 82 year old neighbor lady I sometimes take to the drug store to pick up her medications also looks deviant. You need to apologize.
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Old 02-28-2016, 09:42 PM
 
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I hope you are kidding. The easiest of all things to fake is a face.
I guess if you had a Hollywood makeup artist you do an adequate job and fool some poll workers but you are not going to fool facial recognition. All the makeup in the world is not going to change the distance your eyes are apart and other key features.

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And as soon as you establish a common data base of physical identification you have a national ID card.
I'm not necessarily opposed to such a card but if need be accommodations can be made to those that do.

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And Photo ID in no way provides for such a system.
Yes it can with today's tech, it's just matter of implementing it.

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No place near tight enough and in lots of places those ineligible to vote have perfectly good photo ID.
A correctly implemented ID card issued to someone illegible to vote would not have the encrypted data on it that is checked against the server data to determine if they are eligible to vote and other things like is it legitimate ID.
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Old 02-28-2016, 09:58 PM
 
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An underage college student might pay the money for one of these high quality forgeries once, so they can drink.

The PA ID is difficult to fake, at least to the extent where college kids getting into bars or voter fraud is going to enter the picture. You can teach a five year old kid how to spot one.

This card has the typical prism type hologram on the entire face of the card however do you see the black/white keystone with the circle around it?



The color shifts between white and black depending on the angle. All the fakes I've see have the same logo but they use the prism type hologram to duplicate it.
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