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I am currently working on a grant that addresses out of school youth getting into an IT, Healthcare, or Manufacturing certificate program, so they can at least get an entry level job in these fields.
IT requires a CS degree for all but the most driven autistic people that can teach themselves an immense amount of knowledge over a period of many, many years. It's rare, and a certificate won't matter.
Healthcare requires university degrees of various sorts. The jobs that do not, which are rare and all administrative, already have training programs. In no economy has a "manufacturing" certificate ever been a thing. You go to the factory, get hired, and they teach you the job.
True but the bar most are looking at is a BS degree.
Go to a CC site and look up the 1 year cert for web design. One Math class with 0 science classes.
So even your low B, high C student could achieve that.
And there are jobs out there for them.
No, there aren't.
Not for what you would learn in that one year.
No one is hiring people who just know HTML and CSS.
There are more art school grads with high level pure design skills than the market can absorb.
Depends on what "tech" your talking about. The computer an IT industries are not all that is Stem. I'm an Engineer in the defense industry and we have as many blacks as Asians and hardly any Indians. When I worked in Michigan for a big 3 we had 10 times the amount blacks as all Asians combined. We also had quite a few Middle Eastern people, so it's sometimes regional.
That's precisely because of over-zealous Federal AA mandates that will do whatever it takes to pluck all of the Blacks out of the hiring pool in front of everyone else.
IT requires a CS degree for all but the most driven autistic people that can teach themselves an immense amount of knowledge over a period of many, many years. It's rare, and a certificate won't matter.
I guess the Navy does not realize that a bachelor's degree is required to learn how to code, as they have taught hundreds and hundreds of high school graduates how to program.
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Healthcare requires university degrees of various sorts. The jobs that do not, which are rare and all administrative, already have training programs. In no economy has a "manufacturing" certificate ever been a thing. You go to the factory, get hired, and they teach you the job.
Yet, I know a community college that provides a "Laborer" Associate Degree. Struck me as odd, but when I looked at the curriculum, I saw that it had some real meat in it.
The attempts to "fix" the problem by encouraging black highschool students to go into these majors in college is a load of crap IMO.
You have got to get to the kids at a much much younger age and get them interested in math, physics etc. with things like the Lego robotics programs and other things.
Trying to turn a kid with mediocre math and science backgrounds into engineering majors etc. at the age of 17-18 is going to fail. Most of the kids in those fields are coming out of magnet highschools, have 20-30 AP credits and have already have calc 1 if not Calc 1-3 completed. They are going to be in a world of hurt just catching up.
If the govt. wants to put money into fixing this imbalance they need to target gradeschools not highschools imo.
We just need more private schools in the black community that prioritizes STEM. This is one of the main reasons why I think libertarian ideology is probably going to be the best for blacks. If black parents could take their money out of the public schools, and put it into private schools, then we'd see the overall standard for blacks continue to grow.
That's precisely because of over-zealous Federal AA mandates that will do whatever it takes to pluck all of the Blacks out of the hiring pool in front of everyone else.
People keep talking about this, but somehow that AA job guarantee has always eluded members of my family.
I guess the Navy does not realize that a bachelor's degree is required to learn how to code, as they have taught hundreds and hundreds of high school graduates how to program.
Military training is a different beast entirely. That's not what was offered by the poster I quoted.
And military coding is extremely job specific. It doesn't make you suitable for any other type of coding job, but those jobs do sometimes exist for private military contractors.
It certainly doesn't train you to think like a software engineer, which is the qualification of truly qualified coders.
I know military men who were trained in tech skills, and if they are smart they are also completing a university degree in the tech field that they want to work in after they are discharged.
We just need more private schools in the black community that prioritizes STEM. This is one of the main reasons why I think libertarian ideology is probably going to be the best for blacks. If black parents could take their money out of the public schools, and put it into private schools, then we'd see the overall standard for blacks continue to grow.
Black parents who have any money to "take out" of public schools have already moved to upper income suburbs that have better schools.
People keep talking about this, but somehow that AA job guarantee has always eluded members of my family.
I didn't say it was a guarantee. You still have to be competitive in the job pool of AA candidates.
However, that's what the high proportion of Blacks in the Federal government employment is; well above their population proportion let alone their proportion of the tech field.
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