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Old 03-03-2016, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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This email scandal will involve the White House, which is why Lynch will probably elect not to prosecute, despite the evidence.

Hillary, Lynch, and Obama better hope a republican does not get into the White House, otherwise they will all be prosecuted for obstruction of justice. This scandal is Watergate X 10.


Barack still has time to get impeached and lose all this presidential benefits for after office.
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Old 03-03-2016, 09:17 AM
 
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Please stay on topic. This thread has nothing to do with Trey Gowdy. This is about the email investigation being done by the FBI.
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Old 03-03-2016, 03:33 PM
 
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Barack still has time to get impeached and lose all this presidential benefits for after office.

I don't think so-

Hillary probably has some very good dirt on Obama, but he has proven to be more slippery than the Clintons.

If Obama orders Lynch not to investigate, despite a case being sent to her for prosecution by the FBI, he is putting his administration at risk.

One wonders whether he is going to "lower the boom" on Hillary so that he can put Joe Biden in for a candidate.
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Old 03-03-2016, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Secure, Undisclosed
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I love this thread. Tells me how much our citizens really don't know. So to start:

The Bureau (FBI) has no control over what DOS (State) releases in response to a FOIA request.

Communications between a cabinet member and a president are privileged and are not releasable. There have been 19 or so in this case. Therefore, Obama cannot possibly say he didn't know she had a private e-mail account. Because...

All government e-mails end in .gov or .mil - period. Without exception - (unless it is an undercover account, and .mil does not count here). They all end in state.gov, whitehouse.gov, dod.gov, etc. (Ironically, the Bureau was one of the last to get on board.) 'Clintonemail.com' is not a ".gov" address. So if Obama had 19 communications from Clinton and professes he didn't know she had a private e-mail account, well, um..., somebody's lying.

The Bureau's investigation has nothing to do with what the State Department has released. They have all the original evidence (servers, hard drives and thumb drives) and does not give a flip what State releases under FOIA.

The fact that Bryan Pagliano has come over to the government's side should scare the H-E-double-hockey-sticks out of anyone who has donated to the Clinton campaign, because they are about to lose their money.

(I know this because this is the first step I used to take in making a conspiracy charge.)

Just sayin'...
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Old 03-03-2016, 05:14 PM
 
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I love this thread. Tells me how much our citizens really don't know. So to start:

The Bureau (FBI) has no control over what DOS (State) releases in response to a FOIA request.

Communications between a cabinet member and a president are privileged and are not releasable. There have been 19 or so in this case. Therefore, Obama cannot possibly say he didn't know she had a private e-mail account. Because...

All government e-mails end in .gov or .mil - period. Without exception - (unless it is an undercover account, and .mil does not count here). They all end in state.gov, whitehouse.gov, dod.gov, etc. (Ironically, the Bureau was one of the last to get on board.) 'Clintonemail.com' is not a ".gov" address. So if Obama had 19 communications from Clinton and professes he didn't know she had a private e-mail account, well, um..., somebody's lying.

The Bureau's investigation has nothing to do with what the State Department has released. They have all the original evidence (servers, hard drives and thumb drives) and does not give a flip what State releases under FOIA.

The fact that Bryan Pagliano has come over to the government's side should scare the H-E-double-hockey-sticks out of anyone who has donated to the Clinton campaign, because they are about to lose their money.

(I know this because this is the first step I used to take in making a conspiracy charge.)

Just sayin'...
The Clinton's are WELL VERSED on HOW to get around things.

"So if Obama had 19 communications from Clinton and professes he didn't know she had a private e-mail account, well, um..., somebody's lying.

First, I think she is guilty as hell.

hill has aid SHE did NOT SEND or RECEIVE any classified emails.

Lets break this down.

Obama sends her an email on the .gov account. INSTEAD of going DIRECTLY to hillary it goes to one of her underlings in her front office.

THAT person retypes the e-mail and sends it to hillary on her private server.

hill sends a response BACK to her office staff who retype it and THEY send it to Obama.

This scenario is possible because one of the emails states that the classification heading be removed and THEN sent to her.

Remember the REAL reason she had a private server, IMO, is so a trail could NOT be followed, AKA the Rose Law firm documents, the Nixon tapes, etc.
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Old 03-04-2016, 04:36 AM
 
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You're right about just about everything there. State has already testified she did not have a State.gov email address.

So if OBama was communicating with her directly, he had to use a non-gov address. If they communicated through a third party (say, Pagliano or Abedin), then the privilege vanishes.

I think you are absolutely correct that the Clintons know how to get around things; I was there during Whitewater. But they do it in such a clumsy manner - like setting up a private server to avoid the very scrutiny she is getting now. They just aren't good at it...
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Old 03-04-2016, 06:51 AM
 
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hill has aid SHE did NOT SEND or RECEIVE any classified emails.
That was her initial statement, but she quickly changed it to "marked classified" when they started finding the Classified stuff. The "marked" part is KEY, because of the re-typing of emails - she knows very well that the Secure Government Servers with highly classified information are "closed". Those servers don't pass on information, it would have to be illegally removed/re-typed.

Keep in mind that anyone who sent or received any email from Hillary Clinton had to be a total idiot to not notice she was not using a .gov address ..... for 4 YEARS. The State Department was fully aware that she had NO .gov address and NO Department issued secure devices. Patrick Kennedy was the State Department official in charge of all that.
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Old 03-04-2016, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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You're right about just about everything there. State has already testified she did not have a State.gov email address.

So if OBama was communicating with her directly, he had to use a non-gov address. If they communicated through a third party (say, Pagliano or Abedin), then the privilege vanishes.

I think you are absolutely correct that the Clintons know how to get around things; I was there during Whitewater. But they do it in such a clumsy manner - like setting up a private server to avoid the very scrutiny she is getting now. They just aren't good at it...
I don't know what your experience is, but when I'm at work or even at home I rarely use the actual email address. At work my email client uses a LDAP server to lookup email address and previously used email addresses are in an address book. All I need to do is type in some form of a persons name and their email address is inserted. Unless I make the effort to look I don't see how it was resolved.

I don't know what system the White House is using but simply sending someone a email does not mean you know their email address.
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Old 03-04-2016, 08:28 AM
 
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When I click on someone's name to send them an email their email address pops up with it.
I see their email address every time.
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Old 03-04-2016, 09:12 AM
 
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When I click on someone's name to send them an email their email address pops up with it.
I see their email address every time.
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