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Old 03-02-2016, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is to have a good guy with a gun....
Problem solved....


Next?
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Old 03-02-2016, 02:55 PM
 
Location: NJ
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How do you address the Gun Violence in this country? How do you prevent school shootings?
How many school shootings have there been other than gang related?


not to diminish a nut job doing violence, but the concern of school shooting is really part of a larger problem that cannot be solved with stricter gun restrictions. there is a point of diminishing return. Cops go rogue and kill people, wives mostly.


Untill the activists realize passing more gun laws will not negatively impact school shootings, terrorists, workplace or gang violence, people are in danger.


I get the distinct impression that ineffective gun laws are passed, not to save anyone, but to sacrifice people in favor of the eventual, theoretical elimination of private firearm ownership.


The first thing schools need to do is have gun safety classes the same as is done for drivers safety, fire safety and drug use. Remember, the school shooting are part of a larger problem and ultimate solutions are common sense and teaching awareness of the signs to look for in people that are likely to go off the rails.


Schools use teacher wannabe psychiatrists, false indicators like the shape of pop tarts to predict future behavior. A simpler solution is to ask any kid in the school who is a nutcase, psychiatrists not required.


The media hypes these shootings and becomes a 'how to' vidoe for future shooters who clearly get pumped by the publicity of the last shooting. Not to say the media should be silent, just use judgement in providing the news. If Obama and HRc claim a video caused benghazi then you have to believe violent video games become the traing ground for wannabe shooters. not saying ban video games as most don't go rogue watching them but there are some that will definitely be prompted and trained by these videos. As the liberal lament goes...if we could save just one child! You going to apply the same liberal salve to video games as to guns?
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Old 03-02-2016, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Liberals:

"Teaching abstinence is silly we need to teach kids how to have sex safely and responsibly!"

"We need to ban all guns because gun education will never work!"


It's like some alternate universe.
They never see their double standard hypocrisy or think it is ok because they are liberals.
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Old 03-02-2016, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Concerned parents often make the best volunteers. There's a very good chance that you can put an a man or woman with a conceal gun in every room of a school for free. You would need a first-rate vetting process to screen those adults. They'd all need to go through the usual firearms safety training, but if they've already got a CCW they've already done all of that.

Insofar as possible, have teachers who are willing get their CCW and be the guard for their own classroom. But since many will be squeamish about it, solicit for parents to volunteer.
Love it, solves the problem and does not cost the tax payers money. Not so sure about a volunteer in every class room but I would bet you could get 3 or 4 for the school day. I know this would work in my town it would give them old codgers that hang around the marathon something constructive to do and make them feel good about themselves serving the community and keeping the kids safe.
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Old 03-02-2016, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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the teachers in Israel have been through the military and guns aren't a liberal vs. conservative issue there. it's not a culture that's afraid of a gun. not when you're completely surrounded by countries who want to crush you and have tried for 70 years.
Yep, they're well trained for sure and they're not terrified of guns. They also have "how to handle a gun safely" down pat.

Meanwhile, here in Merica, we're delusional. We're stupid enough to actually believe that sticking up a "no guns allowed" sign is going to stop criminals and homicidal maniacs. IT. ISN'T. WORKING.

It's exactly the same solution to exactly the same problem. The only reason anyone would hesitate to institute such a program is because they have a completely irrational fear of guns. It works, therefore it's a good solution. It's already being implemented in many red states. You'll have to get back to me when one of these nutjobs tries to attack a school with somebody shooting back in every classroom and around every corner -- but I seriously doubt it'll ever happen. These sorts of people are bullies and don't like it when there might be folks shooting back. They'll just keep attacking your "gun free zone" school. Much easier target and way bigger body counts.
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Old 03-02-2016, 03:40 PM
 
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Yep, they're well trained for sure and they're not terrified of guns. They also have "how to handle a gun safely" down pat.

Meanwhile, here in Merica, we're delusional. We're stupid enough to actually believe that sticking up a "no guns allowed" sign is going to stop criminals and homicidal maniacs. IT. ISN'T. WORKING.

It's exactly the same solution to exactly the same problem. The only reason anyone would hesitate to institute such a program is because they have a completely irrational fear of guns. It works, therefore it's a good solution. It's already being implemented in many red states. You'll have to get back to me when one of these nutjobs tries to attack a school with somebody shooting back in every classroom and around every corner -- but I seriously doubt it'll ever happen. These sorts of people are bullies and don't like it when there might be folks shooting back. They'll just keep attacking your "gun free zone" school. Much easier target and way bigger body counts.
agreed
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Old 03-02-2016, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Yep, they're well trained for sure and they're not terrified of guns. They also have "how to handle a gun safely" down pat.

Meanwhile, here in Merica, we're delusional. We're stupid enough to actually believe that sticking up a "no guns allowed" sign is going to stop criminals and homicidal maniacs. IT. ISN'T. WORKING.

It's exactly the same solution to exactly the same problem. The only reason anyone would hesitate to institute such a program is because they have a completely irrational fear of guns. It works, therefore it's a good solution. It's already being implemented in many red states. You'll have to get back to me when one of these nutjobs tries to attack a school with somebody shooting back in every classroom and around every corner -- but I seriously doubt it'll ever happen. These sorts of people are bullies and don't like it when there might be folks shooting back. They'll just keep attacking your "gun free zone" school. Much easier target and way bigger body counts.

Having at least some male presence in a position of authority would also be a positive, for no other reason than that the sexes think and react differently in a crisis. If some of the hard-case feminists get their Victoria's Secrets in a wad because Sandy Hook Elementary was characterized as a "hen house", so be it!
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Old 03-02-2016, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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First, you get rid of "Gun Free Zones" in places like schools because all a "Gun Free Zone" does is invite criminals to attack unarmed people including schoolchildren.
Wait, what?? Naw, them "gun free zones" work great. Here's proof!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7pGt_O1uM8
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Old 03-02-2016, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Hire armed guards at schools.

It's not rocket science.

Celebrities and VIP's have body guards. Their kids attend schools with armed guards. Are regular kids so irrelevant that they don't deserve the same protection?

There is a presence of armed guards/cops/security at large events, malls, airports, many standalone stores.... this isn't a new phenomenon.

ETA: I am not Republican or a Dem. But I am a firm supporter of the 2nd.
Very well said but too early to rep you again.
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Old 03-02-2016, 04:00 PM
 
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In Israel firearms licenses are typically only given if one can prove they have reason to carry a gun – for instance if they work in security or law enforcement or live in a dangerous area like the West Bank. They must also be over 21 years old, a resident of Israel for over three years, and pass a mental and physical exam, a shooting test and background checks by the Public Security Ministry. They are then allowed to order a gun through a gun store with approval of the ministry and given a one-time supply of 50 bullets to take home.

Israel eases gun laws in bid to cope with Palestinian 'lone wolf' attacks - Arab-Israeli Conflict - Jerusalem Post
Everyone good with that criteria?
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