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Old 03-10-2016, 06:49 PM
 
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Can someone explain why this administration would want to cede control of the internet.

Internet domain handoff takes major step forward | TheHill
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Old 03-10-2016, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Domain names is NOT the internet..geeze get a grip.
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Old 03-10-2016, 07:56 PM
 
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Domain names is NOT the internet..geeze get a grip.
The DNS servers are what resolve domain names into IP addresses. Whoever controls it essentially has the ability to shut down the internet.

For example, if they decide that they don't want people to go to youtube.com anymore, they can just start returning invalid IP addresses on DNS queries for that domain name.

Or they could setup bankofamerica.com to return the IP address of their own fake BOA site in order to trick you into giving them your bank login.

I wouldn't take it lightly.
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Old 03-10-2016, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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]The DNS servers [/b]are what resolve domain names into IP addresses. Whoever controls it essentially has the ability to shut down the internet.

For example, if they decide that they don't want people to go to youtube.com anymore, they can just start returning invalid IP addresses on DNS queries for that domain name.

Or they could setup bankofamerica.com to return the IP address of their own fake BOA site in order to trick you into giving them your bank login.

I wouldn't take it lightly.
They are not taking over the DNS servers. This isn't about servers or the internet.

It's about domain NAMES.

The group taking control over the domain NAMES are the same group our government has contracted out to for years.
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Old 03-10-2016, 10:53 PM
 
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The DNS servers are what resolve domain names into IP addresses. Whoever controls it essentially has the ability to shut down the internet.

For example, if they decide that they don't want people to go to youtube.com anymore, they can just start returning invalid IP addresses on DNS queries for that domain name.

Or they could setup bankofamerica.com to return the IP address of their own fake BOA site in order to trick you into giving them your bank login.

I wouldn't take it lightly.
Well, this isn't a technical issue, it's an administrative one. ICANN/IANA do not actually run the the TLD servers, they make the decisions as to how they should be run. And any ISP can, technically, decide to not use the TLD servers at all if they don't wish to. They're being used because it's practical to have an arbiter, is all. And of course, it's only a very small percentage of DNS queries that trigger a TLD lookup.

You're 100% right that, technically, an IP carrier can - if they so wish - futz with the DNS servers like you describe. They can even redirect DNS queries to their bogus servers if their users specify their own preferred servers. (Part of the suggested Net Neutrality legislation would have stopped that, but Republicans lost it because that would mean more government control of the Internet. Now they're losing it because the government gets less control. Go figure.)

But partly because DNS is so inherently insecure, we came up with https with certificate authentication. That's what's making life hard for those who like to spoof IP addresses. And that bit of infrastructure - the certificate authorities - has been outside government (and by extension, US government) control since the word go. Even though they're arguably much more important from a security standpoint.

This isn't a big deal. (Incidentally, my employer is getting a TLD of our own. Kinda cool.)
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Old 03-10-2016, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Can someone explain why this administration would want to cede control of the internet.

Internet domain handoff takes major step forward | TheHill
You seriously think the US government controls the internet??????!!!!!!???????

This transition regarding domain names has been underway for some years - IIRC, the agreements were developed before Obama was elected the first time.
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Old 03-10-2016, 11:31 PM
 
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...and another evil omnipotent Obama thread. Never in the history of the USA has a president has so much power to screw things up as this guy.
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Old 03-10-2016, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Now that he doesn't have to face voters again, he's going to pull out all the stops to do as much damage to the USA as possible.
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Old 03-11-2016, 12:14 AM
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Ah, that evil Obama...going through with a plan that's been in the works since around 1997. This was actually originally supposed to be done by 2000. We're only 16 years behind schedule...
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Old 03-11-2016, 01:14 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Now that he doesn't have to face voters again, he's going to pull out all the stops to do as much damage to the USA as possible.
Bahahahahaha.
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