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Old 03-21-2016, 10:08 AM
 
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let me add one more thing,

it's not just a republican/faux conservative problem.

the media has been really nasty to sanders, telling democrats to give up as he "can't win" but who is drawing the crowds?

certainly not hillary.

they disingenuously add the superdelegates to their numbers to make it look worse for sanders (although he could try harder to defend himself from the establishment onslaught)
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Old 03-22-2016, 05:15 AM
 
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oh look, more super PACS on board with cruz and romney:

The CEO of Platinum Health Care — a nursing-home chain that recently settled a lawsuit alleging it stole patients’ Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and Veterans Administration payments — is closely linked to five mysterious companies that donated $250,000 to Stand For Truth, a super PAC supporting Ted Cruz.

The five limited liability companies, which own or operate assisted living facilities for seniors, each donated $50,000 to Stand for Truth on Dec. 21, 2015. That’s the same day that Platinum Health Care — which shares the same Skokie, Illinois, address as the five LLCs — settled over allegations that CEO Ben Klein and his firms kept seniors’ government checks after they moved out of Platinum facilities or died.

be careful what the media tells you and think for yourselves.

are you paying attention Utah voters?

follow the money.
Great post!

I hope they're paying attention.
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Old 03-22-2016, 05:20 AM
 
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The RNC is trying to stop Trump. I'm sorry your don't like the facts.
And if we care AT ALL about this country,WE BETTER HOPE HE DOESNT GET IN!!!!!!!!
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Old 03-22-2016, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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The RNC is trying to stop Trump. I'm sorry your don't like the facts.
add to this, many our Trump groupies say are not conservatives are so far to the right of Trump it isn't funny.
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Old 03-22-2016, 05:25 AM
 
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Then (with the possible exception of Obama) what the hell are they?

Ever heard of the "no true Scottsman" fallacy?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zzSqL--d_I
haven't you heard, the only true conservatives in the whole world are Trump and his followers?.
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Old 03-22-2016, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Patrick Buchanan is a real conservative and this is what he says:

Talking heads are bobbing up on cable TV to declare that if Trump is nominee, they will not vote for him and may vote for Clinton.

This is not unwelcome news. Let them go.

Their departure testifies that Trump is offering something new and different from the foreign policy failures this crowd did so much to produce.

The worst mistake Trump could make would be to tailor his winning positions on trade, immigration and intervention — to court such losers.

While Trump should reach out to the defeated establishment of the party, he cannot compromise the issues that brought him where he is, or embrace the failed policies that establishment produced. This would be throwing away his aces.

The Trump campaign is not a hostile takeover of the Republican Party. It is a rebellion of shareholders who are voting to throw out the corporate officers and board of directors that ran the company into the ground.

Only the company here is our country.

the rest of it:
Suicide of the GOP -- or Rebirth? – Patrick J. Buchanan - Official Website

we know who the REAL conservatives are.
Pat Buchanan is a true conservative? that certainly is a matter of opinion. IN fact who is and isn't is a matter of opinion.
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:03 AM
 
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again, the RNC is NOT conservative.

the left (which everyone would agree is NOT conservative) is also anti-Trump, as you can see on many threads.

they ALL like the lousy trade deals we get.

i saw a good post by Jim Cramer, who has a non-establishment view of trade:

Whether or not your agree with Donald Trump's overall message, his view on U.S. trade makes sense, said Jim Cramer.

"I'm with Trump on this. Look, we lose on every trade deal. I ask all these people from either party: name me one trade deal we have had a surplus on in the last decade. They can't name any," Cramer said on "Squawk Box" on Thursday. "I always find it amusing to think people don't seem to mind that we lose in these deals because we're able to export a lot of premium products that are not made necessarily by people in our workforce."
Trump is about as conservative as Bernie Sanders. And voting for one issue is a waste of a vote. Try getting your head out of the RW bubble.
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Old 03-22-2016, 10:10 AM
 
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add to this, many our Trump groupies say are not conservatives are so far to the right of Trump it isn't funny.
why is it that trump gets accused of being BOTH too liberal and too conservative? I find that very interesting.

Maybe because he can't be bought----like just this one example of what happens when you buy elections:

More than half of the government-funded nonprofit health insurers created by Obamacare have failed, sticking taxpayers with a $1.2 billion tab and leaving hundreds of thousands of people in more than a dozen states scrambling for medical coverage, a new federal audit reveals. The nonprofit insurers are known as Consumer Operated and Oriented Plan Program (CO-OP) and the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has pumped $2.4 billion into them under the president’s hostile takeover of the nation’s healthcare system.

Congress initially allocated $6 billion for the Obamacare CO-OP program, with the goal of establishing CO-OPs in all 50 states as well as the District of Columbia. Thankfully, subsequent legislation slashed funding for the ill-fated experiment. In all, HHS has funded 23 of these dubious enterprises and 12 have already gone under after losing an astounding $1.2 billion that’s unlikely to ever be recovered. As a result 740,000 people in 14 states must search for new medical coverage they thought they had under the financially disastrous Obamacare plan (end)

these people donate money to campaigns to get the cash and run, leaving americans with the bill, and it happens ALL THE TIME.



Trump is the first candidate who ever used his own money to try and win. He is beholden to NOBODY, and that can't be overestimated.

It must be a lot more fun using other people's money, and we see how the media supports the big money PAC candidates on BOTH SIDES.

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Old 03-23-2016, 01:07 PM
 
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More influence peddling and connections between Neil bush, Heidi Cruz, and ted:


Ted Cruz, A Bush By Another Name | The Daily Caller.

These people literally steal and the media is focusing on the melania picture that cruz ridiculously posted in Utah. Melania looked great, for the record, but trying to objectify a woman to gain a political edge is sad theater.

Not classy ted, and not classy media.

Let's stick to issues that affect us, the citizens.

Remember us?
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Old 03-23-2016, 01:10 PM
 
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there is now a new movement to stop Trump, allegedly by "conservatives". I am tired of the media trying to hijack the conservative name by slapping it on this movement.

Romney is NOT conservative.

Glenn beck is NOT conservative

Rubio is NOT conservatiive.

Kasich is NOT conservative.

Obama is NOT conservative.

the Economist magazine is NOT conservative.
Lies or just not your definition of conservatism.
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