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Old 03-20-2016, 11:19 AM
 
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This is true. Ron Paul would not have been a warmonger but the majority said no.
Remember Ron Paul being boo'ed at the debates for suggesting our foreign policy follow the golden rule? No doubt those booing considered themselves good Christians and constitionalists.
As the empire circles the drain.
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Old 03-20-2016, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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ISIS is a problem because of the disasterous US supported "arab spring" that brainchild of the Clinton/Obama/Kerry college kid foriegn policy debacle that eventually led to the end of the dictatorships, which as bad as they were still kept a lid on the islamist movement. Once the strongmen of Egypt and Libya were deposed ISIS filled the power vacuum and we have seen the results of that policy. And then the policy geniuses decided to do the same with Syria and you can see the results of that debacle.

Instead of accepting the results of our interference in the middle east the Clinton state department doubled down on stupid. That alone is reason to not elect her.

Oh, and where were they in 2009 when the student in Iran were asking for US aid to overthrow the mullahs? Crickets. They were ready to do the work but wanted some assurance that we would stand behind them but that wouldn't have left the mullahs in power. The powers that be need that conflict to justify their existance and Hilary is their poster child.
I guess you forgot about the 2 disastrous wars started by Republicans. Those are what led to the development of ISIS.
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Old 03-20-2016, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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I guess you forgot about the 2 disastrous wars started by Republicans. Those are what led to the development of ISIS.
Unfortunately, you are wrong. ISIS grew out of Al Qaeda which was formed in 1999 and they weren't exactly Boy Scouts.
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Old 03-20-2016, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh (via Chicago, via Pittsburgh)
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Are you admitting that our military spending is really just a massively inefficient welfare scheme that has the unfortunate side effects of getting our young people killed, destabilizing entire regions, and breeding extremism?
This is what many Neo-Cons want.
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Old 03-20-2016, 01:58 PM
 
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Unfortunately, you are wrong. ISIS grew out of Al Qaeda which was formed in 1999 and they weren't exactly Boy Scouts.
Actually ISIS didn't grow out of al Qaeda but rather Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad and was founded in Jordan in 1999 but who quibbling over details?
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Old 03-20-2016, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Suppose we cut our military spending in half. What are many of your neighbors going to do for a living? What are you?
There will be more jobs since service our military personnel will be home spending their money here. We the people will have more money and will spend it efficiently, unlike government, since less will go to government to fund wars
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Old 03-20-2016, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Unfortunately, you are wrong. ISIS grew out of Al Qaeda which was formed in 1999 and they weren't exactly Boy Scouts.
Of course they weren't Boy Scouts, they were freedom fighters. Reagan said. Al Qaeda grew from the Taliban.
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Old 03-20-2016, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Texas
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JFK was the last one. Signed papers to pull everyone out of Vietnam.

As soon as he was "eliminated" LBJ reversed JFK's decision and we've been at war with someone ever since.
Nixon was the last one. He got us out of Vietnam.
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Old 03-20-2016, 02:37 PM
 
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When will terrorists and other nations stop trying to bring war to us?
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Old 03-20-2016, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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When will terrorists and other nations stop trying to bring war to us?
When we stop invading and occupying their sovereign nations and killing their people and desecrating their holy lands.
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