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Instead of fearing blowback they should stand up against this and do something about it, but they don't and won't because they fear themselves more than any blowback.
Do something?
It's radical decentralized ideology, no single leader, political force or country.
70,000 Muslim clerics gathered in Asia to condem terrorism last year.
Molenbeek, Belgium with large sections having 70-80% of its population Muslim has had:
-A Paris murderer living among them for 4 months and local newspapers reporting that many locals knew but did not report.
-Had many Muskim youth riot and attack police to the point that cops in riot gear had to be brought in, simply because their "hero" the Paris murderer was arrested.
-The France train terrorist spent time there.
-The Charlie Hebdo Terrorists had connections there.
-Around 100 young Muslims left to join ISIS from there.
-In this area (Brussels) a public Christmas tree was firebombed a few months ago by youth, one of which shouted allahu akbar.
-In this area (Brussels) youth chanting allahu akbar picked up a car and threw it down the stairs to the subway - nearly killing people.
-In this area (Brussels) scores of cars have been set on fire.
And the Muslims in Molenbeek are worried about blow back? Any civilized person would worry about their own population being out of freaking control and rise up to put a stop to it within their own community.
ISIS probably got a kick out of that and put them on a hit list.
I am glad that "South Asian Sunni Muslims" in India are more civilized than some other groups - too bad they didn't draw in from the Middle East more.
A whopping 64% of American Muslims say that violence against Americans in the US can NOT be justified as a part of global Jihad. 25% say it can be justified, 11% are unsure. That isn't too bad...
A whopping 64% of American Muslims say that violence against Americans in the US can NOT be justified as a part of global Jihad. 25% say it can be justified, 11% are unsure. That isn't too bad...
It doesn't matter what individuals say - ISLAM demands eternal jihad until the world is conquered, converted, or dead.
Fortunately, there are people leaving Islam over the vile drivel preached in its name, over the words of the Koran and over the acts of Muhammad. People can change, they can realize that they have been following a primitive, barbaric death cult. They CAN CHOOSE to reject Islam and all the evil it represents and promotes. Or they CAN CHOOSE to stay and support it.
No different than neo-Nazis, the KKK or the NBPP. People can learn to reject evil. Education and civilization are important steps. Perhaps this is a step in the eventual extinction of Islam, as well as other superstitions.
Fortunately, there are people leaving Islam over the vile drivel preached in its name, over the words of the Koran and over the acts of Muhammad. People can change, they can realize that they have been following a primitive, barbaric death cult. They CAN CHOOSE to reject Islam and all the evil it represents and promotes. Or they CAN CHOOSE to stay and support it.
No different than neo-Nazis, the KKK or the NBPP. People can learn to reject evil. Education and civilization are important steps. Perhaps this is a step in the eventual extinction of Islam, as well as other superstitions.
Although ridiculous, I don't mind harmless superstition, like a baseball batter needing to wear his lucky socks for the big game.
I do mind a horrible pedophile establishing a religion of evil that when read literally, does justify what happened in Belgium today.
1. LOL. Funny stuff. The invasion took place because Bush & Co. lied and lied and lied to the American public, Congress and to the world at large. Pretty much everyone accepts this truth now. It's hilarious how you will defend this absolutely failed debacle when no one else will.
2. Still doesn't answer the question, though. Your country invaded a sovereign nation and murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. If Muslims who have done nothing wrong are to be held responsible for the murders done in their name, then you are equally culpable for the hundreds of thousands of civilians killed in your name. Funny, I don't remember you standing up against that the way you are demanding all Muslims do.
But that's different, right?
1. You flaming Lefties are quick to call Bush a blithering idiot, but he's somehow capable of orchestrating a complex ploy to get us overseas and completely circumvent the checks and balances system we have in place to prevent such actions. Which one is it? Idiot or con-artist mastermind?
2. Can I see some stats for this? I was in Iraq twice and there weren't hundreds of civilians dying every day...and if there were, it was done by other "Muslims" from mortars, suicide vests, VBIEDs, etc.
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Another hater! Calm down, you're popping a vein and it isn't necessary.
Some of you need to get out more or travel to large cities or get out of your little neighborhoods and meet Americans who happen to be Muslim. They're not the same as those coming from the Middle East who do not assimilate and start trouble.
You're just one more person who feels that some Americans should have fewer rights than other Americans.
People like you scare me.
You're right. I know a bunch of Muslims that happen to be really cool. And most of them despise ISIS. But that doesn't negate the fact that there is a significant threat for extremists who claim Islam. And something needs to be done about that.
Now if a bunch of extremist Christians were to come out of the woodwork and start terrorizing people in the US, how long do you think that uprising would last?
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Do what exactly? What is a middle-class Muslim family in Houston going to/supposed to do to combat terrorists in the Middle East and other parts of the world? How could they "control" them?
Fair enough; you make a good point. But what I'm about to say will trump your argument, no pun intended. Imagine you're in a village overseas with about 500 people. Majority of the citizens have guns (AK-47s) and say they love peace. One day, a group of extremists rolls in. Can't be more than 20 guys. They claim that they are in charge of the city now, and everyone will do as they say. You go to the US base nearby for help, and the US base arms your militia up with weapons. M4s, 9mms, etc. Loads of ammo. Four weeks later, your village elder has decided to sell your weapons to the extremists for profit, leaving you defenseless. Now why didn't your city of 500 protect itself from 20 people? Seems pretty silly, doesn't it? Now take that scenario and expand it country-wide; you end up with places like Iraq and Afghanistan.
I can't speak for everyone, but this is why I get upset about these situations. We give them the weapons, the training, everything they need to succeed....and they blow it miserably by running at the first sign of trouble. If you don't believe me or need some proof, google "Camp Speicher". I was at that base twice. Completely locked down by US forces, and those extremist dirtbags were scared to come within 100 yards of the place. Soon as we handed it over to the Iraqi Army and shook hands, it got overran. Look at Mosul (FOB Marez). Look at Tal Afar (FOB Sykes). Do you see the trend? The IA is busy taking back bases that were locked down for YEARS.
If they don't do this in their own countries, the countries that they supposedly love and want freedom from the ISIS for, why would they do it over here? They simply don't want it bad enough, and have become accustomed to other people fixing their problems. A lot of people don't realize that they beg us to stay in those countries when we threaten to pull out; we're not over there because we wanna be. Karzai in Afghanistan shook in his boots every time we told him we were gonna leave.
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Originally Posted by jazzarama
Despite your self-proclaimed sympathy for the bombing victims, you managed to throw Trump into your post.
Less than two months ago, Trump was hammered for referring to the Brussels area as a hellhole of potential Islamic terror. He was right, the facts were there for everyone to see, but the Belgian and other European leader, plus too many in the U.S., turn a blind eye.
Too many conservatives can't think in nuances like this. When a handful of Muslims commit acts of terrorism their minds go immediately to, "MUSLIMS BAD!" That's as far as their train of thought is capable of traveling.
I, too, feel for both the victims of these acts and the billions of innocent Muslims who will now be demonized by the simple-minded as being guilty simply by association.
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Listen to you who lumps all Trump supporters together. You aren't fooling anyone.
And I think the "nuances" line was taken from one of Obama's millennial geniuses who told us the terrorists just need jobs. It's not even original anymore.
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