Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 03-28-2016, 04:47 AM
Status: "Smartened up and walked away!" (set 26 days ago)
 
11,780 posts, read 5,792,331 times
Reputation: 14201

Advertisements

Although I will agree with your statements about immigrants in the old days - this is not the old days! Back then immigrants were happy to assimilate unto American society. My husband's family came from Poland. When the grandchildren wanted to learn Polish - they were told NO - you are an American - we speak English.

There were not the social programs supporting them - they had to find work to live and worked hard to prove to the "Americans" they belonged.

There was little threat of terrorism then - we were the ones everyone wanted to be.

The citizens of their countries need to stand up for themselves and help fight ISIS and take back their cities but it's much easier to go to another country as a "refugee" and live off of their citizens.

I'm sure that many of the people and families of the people that have died due to terrorists had the same altruistic outlook as you do - I wonder how they feel now?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 03-28-2016, 04:56 AM
 
12,997 posts, read 13,643,558 times
Reputation: 11192
Quote:
Originally Posted by xray731 View Post
Although I will agree with your statements about immigrants in the old days - this is not the old days! Back then immigrants were happy to assimilate unto American society. My husband's family came from Poland. When the grandchildren wanted to learn Polish - they were told NO - you are an American - we speak English.

There were not the social programs supporting them - they had to find work to live and worked hard to prove to the "Americans" they belonged.

There was little threat of terrorism then - we were the ones everyone wanted to be.

The citizens of their countries need to stand up for themselves and help fight ISIS and take back their cities but it's much easier to go to another country as a "refugee" and live off of their citizens.

I'm sure that many of the people and families of the people that have died due to terrorists had the same altruistic outlook as you do - I wonder how they feel now?
Well, I can speak from experience when I say immigrants in the 21st century are a lot like immigrants in the 19th century. I spoke with many Iraqis and Afghans who desperately wanted American citizenship. They wanted to escape the hellish conditions of their homeland and go somewhere where they could work hard and get ahead. My Afghan interpreter had saved up over $100,000 for a down payment for a house and dreamed of being able to bring his brothers and parents to America. He was a hard worker. I have no reason to doubt he'd quit being one once he immigrated.

My brother in law spoke poor English when he immigrated from Morocco at the age of 25. Now he speaks good English, is married to an American, attends a church and is a supervisor at a factory. He was picked for a supervisory role because he's a hard worker.

Little threat of terrorism? Think again. Terrorism was invented by left wing revolutionaries. Nativists in America wanted Europeans to stay out so that this would not spread to our soil. Remember Sacco and Vanzetti? Some did, but for the most part, the very same anarchists and radical socialists became moderates when they finally lived in a place where someone can work hard and get ahead.

Like Obama, I have faith in this country. Maybe because like him I have lived abroad and have seen the rest of the world. People who come here appreciate what they have. They don't want to mess it up. We have the land, we have the know-how, we can grow the economy. We need to let them come.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-28-2016, 05:03 AM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
10,379 posts, read 10,915,269 times
Reputation: 18713
That Obama, pure genius, invite in more people that hate your culture and want to blow you up. ??????
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-28-2016, 05:10 AM
 
12,997 posts, read 13,643,558 times
Reputation: 11192
Quote:
Originally Posted by augiedogie View Post
That Obama, pure genius, invite in more people that hate your culture and want to blow you up. ??????
If you're anti-immigration, you hate our culture so I guess Obama wants to bring in more people to remind the nativists of what America is and is supposed to be about.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-28-2016, 05:17 AM
 
Location: NJ
23,550 posts, read 17,223,445 times
Reputation: 17590
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmyp25 View Post
President Obama is calling for more openness to refugees in the aftermath of the Brussels terror attacks, urging Americans to continue leading by “example†when it comes to immigration policy.

“As we move forward in this fight, we have to wield another weapon alongside our airstrikes, our military, and our counterterrorism work, and our diplomacy. And that’s the power of our example,†the president said in his weekly address on Saturday.

“Our openness to refugees fleeing ISIL’s violence, our determination to win the battle against ISIL’s hateful and violent propaganda, a distorted view of Islam that aims to radicalize young Muslims to their cause.â€



I cannot wait till this idiot is out of office.....




Obama Calls for More 'Openness to Refugees' After Brussels Terror Attacks | Fox News Insider

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/03...aster-address/


So the media created label of great orator does not include a hint of being, at least, a moderately good communicator.


The great orator is unable, and actually, is not motivated, to use his magical powers of communication to persude anyone. He just does what he wants everyone else be dammed. He treats the American people as he does the republican legislators. Obama has been coronated "King" by the media as the media fails to take hi to task on this latest declaration to his kingdom.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-28-2016, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Long Island
57,271 posts, read 26,199,434 times
Reputation: 15640
Quote:
Originally Posted by michiganmoon View Post
What you don't understand is that Obama's insane PC policies block us from properly vetting these refugees. Any type of questions about radical religion is off limits.

U.S. Officials Can't Ask Syrian Refugees Key Questions

What you don't understand is that Obama is factually playing with fire as ISIS is trying to infiltrate these refugees, several refugees in the US have been arrested on terrorism charges, and refugees all over the west have committed heinous acts.

Islamic State reveals it has smuggled THOUSANDS of extremists into Europe | World | News | Daily Express

Confirmed: ISIS targeting U.S. ‘refugee’ program

------------------

Refugees arrested on terror-related charges - CNN.com

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/20/us...ning.html?_r=0

NY Times Reports on “Serious Concerns with Refugee Terrorists in USâ€: 14 Muslim “Refugees†Arrested on Terror Charges | Pamela Geller

Nearly 70 are arrested in America over ISIS plots and they include refugees | Daily Mail Online

COVER-UP: 41 Terrorists Disclosed as Obama Stonewalls Congress
These are not "Obamas Policies", these have always been in place and they have worked. The problem is a few politicians playing on fear during an election year.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-28-2016, 05:27 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
18,773 posts, read 18,137,228 times
Reputation: 14777
Quote:
Originally Posted by WestCobb View Post
If you're anti-immigration, you hate our culture so I guess Obama wants to bring in more people to remind the nativists of what Ameirca is and is supposed to be about.

How do you protect us from this: Children of ISIS | FRONTLINE | PBS? Should we just tango our way through the bombs? Perhaps we should give speeches about how it makes no difference if we are communist or capitalist? You cannot vet immigrants if you cannot ask the hard questions or you have no background information. Obama really doesn't give a rat's butt about America; he is a short timer and he will be taken care of for the rest of his life.


Anti-American is stating we are bringing in 100,000 regardless of whether we can check their background properly. You tell me what the people living in Brussels feel about what their government did to protect them? Many, in Europe and the US, are rethinking this whole open-borders push - that is why Trump is so popular. While you might hate Trump and what he stands for; do you like playing Russian roulette with only one chamber free? What will happen if we have one major ISIS attack on American soil before November? It will not be a cake walk for the Democrats!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-28-2016, 06:20 AM
 
12,039 posts, read 6,568,955 times
Reputation: 13981
Quote:
Originally Posted by PanapolicRiddle View Post
Refugees are screened thoroughly... Many xenophobes don't understand this.
The FBI, the CIA, and Homelamd security have all come out repeatedly saying they CAN'T vet these people. What part of that do you NOT understand???

San Bernardino terrorist was a perfect example of your "thoroughly" vetted. ISIS has said it is using the refugees to infiltrate their terrorists.
Try to keep up.....
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-28-2016, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
36,754 posts, read 14,825,823 times
Reputation: 35584
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoot N Annie View Post
I can only see 2 possible explanations: 1) POTUS is on the side of our enemy, or 2) he want to be know as the Neville Chamberlain of our time. I'm going with #1.


Of course I see some of our reliable lib posters are still suffering from acute truthophobia.


Actually, both might be true.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 03-28-2016, 06:43 AM
 
12,997 posts, read 13,643,558 times
Reputation: 11192
Quote:
Originally Posted by fisheye View Post
How do you protect us from this: Children of ISIS | FRONTLINE | PBS?
Those who are fleeing Syria don't want to live under ISIS. They want to live free in a land of opportunity. I think we should welcome them to our soil. 100,000 is way too few, but I understand Obama has to contend with idiots so he can't propose we bring 2-5 million, which would be much more reasonable.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:32 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top