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Old 03-28-2016, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Someone needs to explain to me how blocking healthcare money for low income women is a victory.


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John Stemberger, president of the Florida Family Policy Council, called the law “a historic victory,” in a statement.
State funding of abortion was already prohibited, but the new law also blocks money for services for low-income women at the clinics.
It also requires doctors to have admitting privileges at a hospital - a type of formal affiliation that can be difficult to obtain - within a “reasonable” distance of clinics.


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“He claims to be for small government, pro-freedom and opposed to putting government in between people and their doctors – except when it comes to Florida’s women,” said Simon.

Rick Scott Signs Abortion Restrictions Law
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Old 03-28-2016, 08:40 AM
 
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Someone needs to explain to me how blocking healthcare money for low income women is a victory.

That's not what occurred here.
Florida Governor Rick Scott on Friday signed a law that cuts off state funding for preventive health services to clinics providing abortion and imposes abortion restrictions already being tested before the U.S. Supreme Court.
They will just have to go elsewhere.


Also - we should not be at the point where government is even involved in these decisions. If you want to allow women the freedom to get their abortions, get the government out of the process, which will bring the costs way down, and have them get their abortion services and pay for them out of their own funds (or set up their own payment plan). These people need to responsible for something...
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Old 03-28-2016, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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That's not what occurred here.
Florida Governor Rick Scott on Friday signed a law that cuts off state funding for preventive health services to clinics providing abortion and imposes abortion restrictions already being tested before the U.S. Supreme Court.
They will just have to go elsewhere.


Also - we should not be at the point where government is even involved in these decisions. If you want to allow women the freedom to get their abortions, get the government out of the process, which will bring the costs way down, and have them get their abortion services and pay for them out of their own funds (or set up their own payment plan). These people need to responsible for something...
That governor is a idiot. He is only trying to make a political statement to advance his career. Florida can fund the Medicaid, food stamps, and welfare for all those babies born to women who could not afford birth control.
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Old 03-28-2016, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by DRob4JC View Post
That's not what occurred here.
Florida Governor Rick Scott on Friday signed a law that cuts off state funding for preventive health services to clinics providing abortion and imposes abortion restrictions already being tested before the U.S. Supreme Court.
They will just have to go elsewhere.


Also - we should not be at the point where government is even involved in these decisions. If you want to allow women the freedom to get their abortions, get the government out of the process, which will bring the costs way down, and have them get their abortion services and pay for them out of their own funds (or set up their own payment plan). These people need to responsible for something...
This has nothing to do with abortions directly, this is to defund other services such as health screenings at clinics that perform abortions.


Government can be involved in contraception or they can pay the consequences later, seems like a little education beforehand reduces the impact to the government in the long run. This type of bill defies logic.

Florida legislators tell women they can get birth control from dentists, K-12 schools
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Old 03-28-2016, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Inland FL
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Abortion needs to be made outright illegal with exceptions for rape and when the pregnancy poses a risk to the mother's life. Other than that, if you are of childbearing age and choose to have sex, then you put choose to take risk of a pregnancy occurring. It doesn't take rocket science to figure that out. Don't want kids or get pregnant, don't have sex or pay for your own contraceptive devices with your own money. If you do have kids, pay for them with your own money, it's not the tax payers responsibility to pay for you or your kids. We also need to get eliminate WIC, section 8 housing and all these other forms of "welfare".
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Old 03-28-2016, 10:44 AM
 
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That governor is a idiot. He is only trying to make a political statement to advance his career. Florida can fund the Medicaid, food stamps, and welfare for all those babies born to women who could not afford birth control.
Do you think this is why women actually have so many kids they can't afford?......I am asking a serious question, this is not sarcasm.


By the way I hate it when men or women who think they know how the public sector lives to make decisions for any of us. If one listens to these people, you'd think women are lining up like cattle and getting abortions on a daily bases.......just disgusting.
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Old 03-28-2016, 10:45 AM
 
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That's not what occurred here.
Florida Governor Rick Scott on Friday signed a law that cuts off state funding for preventive health services to clinics providing abortion and imposes abortion restrictions already being tested before the U.S. Supreme Court.
They will just have to go elsewhere.

Badda bing, badda boom. Simple as that. Thread over.
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Old 03-28-2016, 10:56 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Florida Governor Rick Scott on Friday signed a law that cuts off state funding for preventive health services to clinics providing abortion and imposes abortion restrictions already being tested before the U.S. Supreme Court.
They will just have to go elsewhere.

What about the women who receive preventive health services who are not seeking an abortion? They must 'go elsewhere' just because one of the services provided happens to be abortion?

There is no way in hell I'll ever get pregnant, but I still need low-cost healthcare. Why should women like me suffer?

So sick of conservatives invading my vagina and uterus! Just GET OUT!
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Old 03-28-2016, 10:58 AM
 
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Abortion needs to be made outright illegal with exceptions for rape and when the pregnancy poses a risk to the mother's life. Other than that, if you are of childbearing age and choose to have sex, then you put choose to take risk of a pregnancy occurring. It doesn't take rocket science to figure that out. Don't want kids or get pregnant, don't have sex or pay for your own contraceptive devices with your own money. If you do have kids, pay for them with your own money, it's not the tax payers responsibility to pay for you or your kids. We also need to get eliminate WIC, section 8 housing and all these other forms of "welfare".
Behold the Republican version of an American utopia. No abortions for anyone except for rape (I guess those kids don't count) or medical necessity. No contraceptives for women who can't afford them. And no help for anyone who ends up having a kid for whom, in this Conservative utopia, both contraceptives and/or abortion were denied, with raising those kids they had no other option than to bear once they became pregnant. So basically, lots of desperate, hungry, homeless mothers and children.

Hey, I know, we could bring back work houses for them, like they had in 19th century England. Put those worthless little moochers to work for their gruel.

Meanwhile, all the men who impregnated those women (it doesn't happen without them, you know) get off scot free. But we have to be sure to punish the women who dared to have sex (again, no mention of men in this scenario) and the children who result.

It's no wonder we call your state Flori-DUH.
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Old 03-28-2016, 11:00 AM
 
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Nooo! There should be no restrictions on abortion.
I know quite a few teens and adults that should be aborted but because we have laws they are still an issue out there.
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