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Some describe those actions as "beneficial" based on their emotions, their bias. Others decide more objectively what is right or wrong about the events of history.
Not to beat a poor dead horse still more, but "might" actually does make "right" for many who cannot think objectively.
One thing I have learned from history anyway..., is that sort of thinking is wrong. We can and should do better as a people, as a country, as a world power.
And better is what we should always be striving for, right?
Time to maybe waste less of my time by doing other things now...
Cheers!
Bullies will be bullies.
You going to be passive and accept the bullies might to oppress you? Ever try and reason with someone trying their best to intimidate you, with threats of harm?
The issue is that if it is beyond obvious, why have you spent a long time arguing that it is not proven by history?
Would you like a different example?
Have you any idea how hard this is to understand? For me to understand anyway...
You, me, none of us need to spend time discussing or proving the obvious. Clearly, history has documented and made clear -- obvious -- that might often prevails.
Not so obvious, for some anyway, is that judgment about the right or wrong of historical events is more complicated than simply recognizing victor over vanquished.
Even more important and far less obvious is how to apply that judgement today and going forward, where very important decisions about the use of force are being made by the United States and other countries.
Were this question posted in the History forum, then I would agree, but the in the context of Politics and other Controversies, the teachings are in the political cycles and patterns.
Of course you have your perspective about all of this. Also obvious is that your perspective is very different from mine in more than a few ways.
For example, I would argue the very opposite. History is an integral part of politics, integral to a better understanding all around.
What these forums make obvious is that these sorts of understandings are sorely lacking, almost no matter what the category of thread.
Seems to me that most people haven't learned much from history at all...
No need to get personal about it! That is how you react when the truth hurts?
The answer to your question, is not as dynamic as you think it should be.
Wars have been waged between nations, tribes, people, and individuals for how many millennia?
There are only 2 answer choices to conflict.
I'm sorry - I apologize. Or F* you, pal.
Power, is all powerful. As one gets older, it may click what actually gains one the freedom they think they deserve.
One cannot give me or anyone, anymore freedom & liberty than we always had. They can only take it away. Power!
Don't mean to get personal, but hard to avoid when it is only you I am addressing, and primarily you that kept going on about one simple lesson "learned" from history; that "might makes right."
All you seem able to consider is that power and force is all that matters.
"Power is all powerful."
Those are your words, meaning what I'm also not sure, but there's that word again, twice in the space of a four word sentence!
As you have got older, it seems you can't think in any other terms. In fact you almost seem all the more proud every time you write about how power prevails, how that leverage of power is all that matters in the end. F*k or be F*kd you might say...
Nothing personal, but there is nothing beyond the obvious you seem to have learned from history. Who doesn't know that "bullies will be bullies," for example?
More interesting question or lesson might be to consider what makes a bully a bully?
When is the application of force right or wrong?
The answer to THOSE sorts of questions are what gets us beyond the obvious I think...
Ever try and reason with someone trying their best to intimidate you, with threats of harm?
Almost every day here in this forum, but here no one has any power over another, except perhaps by way of what knowledge we have learned and what reason we might apply.
Almost every day here in this forum, but here no one has any power over another, except perhaps by way of what knowledge we have learned and what reason we might apply.
Hmmm...
You feel as though people are trying to intimidate others on this?
Amusing.
Mocked, ridiculed, belittled, maybe I'd agree. What I see online is a bunch of ego-thumping 'I'm smarter than you' bs. I would say it is very arrogant and extremely juvenile but, in all honesty, it cracks me up.
I'll still bow to the khan of khans, literally. I have to keep using that. Don't take offense. You had me laughing all afternoon (not laughing at you, laughing at the obvious).
Have a good day.
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Wrong again...
