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Old 03-31-2016, 04:30 AM
 
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This is the Nexus of right wing/confederate flag waving mentality. You believe in things because you think they **** some other group of people off who you hate, not because the beliefs are sensible or righteous. Sad.
I'm sorry you're sad.

I'll say a little prayer for you tonight.
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Old 03-31-2016, 04:37 AM
 
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I have no idea what is going on here.
White people being happy.

Can't have that!

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Originally Posted by middle-aged mom View Post
10,000 fine Christian, mostly veteran KKK members committed to preserving the state constitution to exclude black people from registering and voting.

Despite local bragging, the state refused to take action to prosecute those who hunted and murdered 3 civil rights workers ( 2 Jewish men from NY and 1 black man) intent on registering black people to vote.
Wasn't that over 60 years ago?

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Stickin' it to the libs has become a viable political platform in flyover country.
You can have fun doing it anywhere -- it's so easy.
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Old 03-31-2016, 04:39 AM
 
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You are spot on.

52 years later apparently this state continues to use religion as a tool to deny civil rights to some people.

( I am not talking about the firing squads)
You don't seem to be very upset about whites and males being denied their civil rights.

It is perfectly legal to give racial preferences to non-whites that discriminate against whites, and gender preferences to females that discriminate against males.

But continue with your indignation based on things that probably happened before you were even born...
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Old 03-31-2016, 02:45 PM
 
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A guillotine even more so. It's instantaneous. No waiting for them to die of gunshot wounds on the ground.

I still think the death penalty is barbaric though. The US is among the only developed countries that still use it, and the US executes the most people after North Korea, China, Iran, Saudi Arabia. Not exactly countries known for 'freedom'...
That's okay and I understand why you find it barbaric. I believe that it will be in the next fifty years abolished in the United States. I am a strong supporter of the death penalty though only for violent offenses though we still need major prison and capital punishment reform in this country.
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Old 04-01-2016, 10:42 AM
 
Location: London
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We need to execute more.

There are -- what -- about 600 murderers on death row in California alone.

I say scrap the electric chair.

We need electric bleachers!
lmao @ 'electric bleachers'

I think a life sentence of hard labor could be a good route. The nasty stuff that no one wants to do, like public pest control, cleaning public toilets, working in slaughterhouses, etc.

It'd also eliminate the need to allow illegals in the country.
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Old 04-01-2016, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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As a long time Yankee liberal looking at an April Snowstorm this weekend, I have considered moving to a warmer place. That means someplace south. My tolerance for bigoted absurdity eliminates any place east of New Mexico. So never fear. I will not be polluting the Deep South with intelligence, tolerance or common sense.
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Old 04-01-2016, 11:22 AM
 
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More denigrating the blackest state in the country, and talking about how the whitest states in the nation are far superior. Will we ever see the end of this?
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Old 04-01-2016, 06:11 PM
 
Location: London
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More denigrating the blackest state in the country, and talking about how the whitest states in the nation are far superior. Will we ever see the end of this?
Time to cut up that race card and put it in the freezer. You're clearly going overboard with it.
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Old 04-01-2016, 06:46 PM
 
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You can tell that those that upset about the discrimination against gay law have not read the law but just what the media is telling you. The lull is simple , all it says it one cannot discrimnate against religion people too, so it the same law S the discrimination against gay but include religion people too, all one has to do is have somebody in the same office that has no problem with gay marriage to sign the permit, it's not anti gay, but it protect those against anti religion too
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:24 PM
 
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H. B. No. 1523
*HR43/R1128PH*
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To:
Judiciary B
MISSISSIPPI LEGISLATURE
REGULAR SESSION 2016
By: Representatives Gunn, Arnold, Bounds,
Carpenter, Gipson, Shirley, Boyd, Eubanks
HOUSE BILL NO. 1523
(As Passed the House)
AN ACT TO CREATE THE "PROTECTING FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE FROM
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GOVERNMENT DISCRIMINATION ACT"; TO PROVIDE CERTAIN PROTECTIONS
2
REGARDING A SINCERELY HELD RELIGIOUS BELIEF OR MORAL CONVICTION
3
FOR PERSONS, RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS AND PRIVATE ASSOCIATIONS; TO
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DE
FINE A DISCRIMINATORY ACTION FOR PURPOSES OF THIS ACT; TO
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PROVIDE THAT A PERSON MAY ASSERT A VIOLATION OF THIS ACT AS A
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CLAIM AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT; TO PROVIDE CERTAIN REMEDIES; TO
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REQUIRE A PERSON BRINGING A CLAIM UNDER THIS ACT TO DO SO NOT
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LATER THAN T
WO YEARS AFTER THE DISCRIMINATORY ACTION WAS TAKEN; TO
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PROVIDE CERTAIN DEFINITIONS; AND FOR RELATED PURPOSES.
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BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI:
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SECTION 1.
This act shall be known and may be cited as the
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"Protecting Freedom of
Conscience from Government Discrimination
13
Act."
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SECTION 2.
The sincerely held religious beliefs or moral
15
convictions protected by this act are the belief or conviction
16
that:
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(a) Marriage is or should be recognized as the union of
18
one man and one woma
n;
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(b) Sexual relations are properly reserved to such a
20
marriage; and
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H. B. No. 1523
*HR43/R1128PH*
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(c) Male (man) or female (woman) refer to an
22
individual’s immutable biological sex as objectively determined by
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anatomy and genetics at time of birth.
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SECTION 3.
(1) The state g
overnment shall not take any
25
discriminatory action against a religious organization wholly or
26
partially on the basis that such organization:
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(a) Solemnizes or declines to solemnize any marriage,
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or provides or declines to provide services, accommodation
s,
29
facilities, goods or privileges for a purpose related to the
30
solemnization, formation, celebration or recognition of any
31
marriage, based upon or in a manner consistent with a sincerely
32
held religious belief or moral conviction described in Section
2
33
of
this act;
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(b) Makes any employment
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related decision, including
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but not limited to, the decision whether or not to hire, terminate
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or discipline an individual whose conduct or religious beliefs are
37
inconsistent with those of the religious organization, b
ased upon
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or in a manner consistent with a sincerely held religious belief
39
or moral conviction described in Section
2
of this act; or
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(c) Makes any decision concerning the sale, rental,
41
occupancy of, or terms and conditions of occupying a dwelling or
42
ot
her housing under its control, based upon or in a manner
43
consistent with a sincerely held religious belief or moral
44
conviction described in Section
2
of this act.
45
H. B. No. 1523
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(2) The state government shall not take any discriminatory
46
action against a religious organ
ization that advertises, provides
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or facilitates adoption or foster care, wholly or partially on the
48
basis that such organization has provided or declined to provide
49
any adoption or foster care service, or related service, based
50
upon or in a manner consist
ent with a sincerely held religious
51
belief or moral conviction described in Section
2
of this act.
52
(3) The state government shall not take any discriminatory
53
action against a person who the state grants custody of a foster
54
or adoptive child, or who seeks
from the state custody of a foster
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or adoptive child, wholly or partially on the basis that the
56
person guides, instructs or raises a child, or intends to guide,
57
instruct, or raise a child based upon or in a manner consistent
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with a sincerely held religiou
s belief or moral conviction
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described in Section
2
of this act.
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(4) The state government shall not take any discriminatory
61
action against a person wholly or partially on the basis that the
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person declines to participate in the provision of treatments,
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c
ounseling, or surgeries related to sex reassignment or gender
64
identity transitioning or declines to participate in the provision
65
of psychological, counseling, or fertility services based upon a
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sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction described
in
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Section
2
of this act. This subsection (4) shall not be construed
68
to allow any person to deny visitation, recognition of a
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designated representative for health care decision
-
making, or
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emergency medical treatment necessary to cure an illness or injury
71
as required by law.
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(5) The state government shall not take any discriminatory
73
action against a person wholly or partially on the basis that the
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person has provided or declined to provide the following services,
75
accommodations, facilities, goods, or priv
ileges for a purpose
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related to the solemnization, formation, celebration, or
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recognition of any marriage, based upon or in a manner consistent
78
with a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction
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described in Section
2
of this act:
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(a) Photograph
y, poetry, videography, disc
-
jockey
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services, wedding planning, printing, publishing or similar
82
marriage
-
related goods or services; or
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(b) Floral arrangements, dress making, cake or pastry
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artistry, assembly
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hall or other wedding
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venue rentals, limousin
e
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or other car
-
service rentals, jewelry sales and services, or
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similar marriage
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related services, accommodations, facilities or
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goods.
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(6) The state government shall not take any discriminatory
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action against a person wholly or partially on the basis tha
t the
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person establishes sex
-
specific standards or policies concerning
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employee or student dress or grooming, or concerning access to
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restrooms, spas, baths, showers, dressing rooms, locker rooms, or
93
other intimate facilities or settings, based upon or in
a manner
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consistent with a sincerely held religious belief or moral
95
conviction described in Section
2
of this act.
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(7) The state government shall not take any discriminatory
97
action against a state employee wholly or partially on the basis
98
that such emplo
yee lawfully speaks or engages in expressive
99
conduct based upon or in a manner consistent with a sincerely held
100
religious belief or moral conviction described in Section
2
of
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this act, so long as:
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(a) If the employee's speech or expressive conduct
103
occur
s in the workplace, that speech or expressive conduct is
104
consistent with the time, place, manner and frequency of any other
105
expression of a religious, political, or moral belief or
106
conviction allowed; or
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(b) If the employee's speech or expressive conduc
t
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occurs outside the workplace, that speech or expressive conduct is
109
in the employee's personal capacity and outside the course of
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performing work duties.
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(8) (a) Any person employed or acting on behalf of the
112
state government who has authority to autho
rize or license
113
marriages, including, but not limited to, clerks, registers of
114
deeds or their deputies, may seek recusal from authorizing or
115
licensing lawful marriages based upon or in a manner consistent
116
with a sincerely held religious belief or moral con
viction
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described in Section
2
of this act. Any person making such
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recusal shall provide prior written notice to the State Registrar
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of Vital Records who shall keep a record of such recusal, and the
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state government shall not take any discriminatory actio
n against
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that person wholly or partially on the basis of such recusal. The
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person who is recusing himself or herself shall take all necessary
123
steps to ensure that the authorization and licensing of any
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legally valid marriage is not impeded or delayed as
a result of
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any recusal.
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(b) Any person employed or acting on behalf of the
127
state government who has authority to perform or solemnize
128
marriages, including, but not limited to, judges, magistrates,
129
justices of the peace or their deputies, may seek recus
al from
130
performing or solemnizing lawful marriages based upon or in a
131
manner consistent with a sincerely held religious belief or moral
132
conviction described in Section
2
of this act. Any person making
133
such recusal shall provide prior written notice to the
134
Administrative Office of Courts, and the state government shall
135
not take any discriminatory action against that person wholly or
136
partially on the basis of such recusal. The Administrative Office
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of Courts shall take all necessary steps to ensure that the
138
performance or solemnization of any legally valid marriage is not
139
impeded or delayed as a result of any recusal.
140
SECTION 4.
(1) As used in this act, discriminatory action
141
includes any action taken by the state government to:
142
(a) Alter in any way the
tax treatment of, or cause any
143
tax, penalty, or payment to be assessed against, or deny, delay,
144
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convictions, to the maximum extent permitted by the state and
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f
ederal constitutions.
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(2) The protection of free exercise of religious beliefs and
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moral convictions afforded by this act are in addition to the
221
protections provided under federal law, state law, and the state
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and federal constitutions. Nothing in this
act shall be construed
223
to preempt or repeal any state or local law that is equally or
224
more protective of free exercise of religious beliefs or moral
225
convictions. Nothing in this act shall be construed to narrow the
226
meaning or application of any state or l
ocal law protecting free
227
exercise of religious beliefs or moral convictions. Nothing in
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this act shall be construed to prevent the state government from
229
providing, either directly or through an individual or entity not
230
seeking protection under this act, a
ny benefit or service
231
authorized under state law.
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(3) This act applies to, and in cases of conflict
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supersedes, each statute of the state that impinges upon the free
234
exercise of religious beliefs and moral convictions protected by
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this act, unless a conf
licting statute is expressly made exempt
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from the application of this act. This act also applies to, and
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in cases of conflict supersedes, any ordinance, rule, regulation,
238
order, opinion, decision, practice or other exercise of the state
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government's autho
rity that impinges upon the free exercise of
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religious beliefs or moral convictions protected by this act.
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H. B. No. 1523
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SECTION 10.
As used in Section 1 through
9
of this act, the
242
following words and phrases shall have the meanings ascribed in
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this section unless the
context clearly indicates otherwise:
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(1) "State benefit program" means any program administered
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or funded by the state, or by any agent on behalf of the state,
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providing cash, payments, grants, contracts, loans or in
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kind
247
assistance.
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(2) "State govern
ment" means:
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(a) The State of Mississippi or a political subdivision
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of the state;
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(b) Any agency of the state or of a political
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subdivision of the state, including a department, bureau, board,
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commission, council, court or public institution of high
er
254
education;
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(c) Any person acting under color of state law; and
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(d) Any private party or third party suing under or
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enforcing a law, ordinance, rule or regulation of the state or
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political subdivision of the state.
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(3) "Person" means:
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(a) A na
tural person, in his or her individual
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capacity, regardless of religious affiliation or lack thereof, or
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in his or her capacity as a member, officer, owner, volunteer,
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employee, manager, religious leader, clergy or minister of any
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entity described in this
section;
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(b) A religious organization;
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(c) A sole proprietorship, or closely held company,
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partnership, association, organization, firm, corporation,
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cooperative, trust, society or other closely held entity operating
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with a sincerely held religious b
elief or moral conviction
270
described in this act; or
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(d) Cooperatives, ventures or enterprises comprised of
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two (2) or more individuals or entities described in this
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subsection.
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(4) "Religious organization" means:
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(a) A house of worship, including,
but not limited to,
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churches, synagogues, shrines, mosques and temples;
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(b) A religious group, corporation, association, school
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or educational institution, ministry, order, society or similar
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entity, regardless of whether it is integrated or affiliated
with
280
a church or other house of worship; and
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(c) An officer, owner, employee, manager, religious
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leader, clergy or minister of an entity or organization described
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in this subsection (4).
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(5) "Adoption or foster care" or "adoption or foster care
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servic
e" means social services provided to or on behalf of
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children, including:
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(a) Assisting abused or neglected children;
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(b) Teaching children and parents occupational,
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homemaking and other domestic skills;
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(c) Promoting foster parenting;
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ST: The "Protecting Freedom of Conscience from
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(d) Prov
iding foster homes, residential care, group
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homes or temporary group shelters for children;
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(e) Recruiting foster parents;
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(f) Placing children in foster homes;
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(g) Licensing foster homes;
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(h) Promoting adoption or recruiting adoptive parents;
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(i) Assisting adoptions or supporting adoptive
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families;
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(j) Performing or assisting home studies;
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(k) Assisting kinship guardianships or kinship
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caregivers;
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(l) Providing family preservation services;
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(m) Providing family support services;
and
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(n) Providing temporary family reunification services.
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SECTION 11.
The provisions of Sections 1 through
9
of this
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act shall be excluded from the application of Section 11
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1.
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SECTION 12.
This act shall take effect and be in force from
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and afte
r July 1, 2016.
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