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Old 03-31-2016, 10:06 AM
 
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Treatment in jail is a good option.
Yep, anything to keep the money machine chugging along, right? With addicts as the fodder for the machinery.

Finn, you make me want to throw up. Fortunately I live in a state where I can legally use the anti-nausea properties of cannabis to help me keep from tossing my cookies.
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Old 03-31-2016, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Being addicted to heroin is not a crime.

Being arrested for shoplifting and/ or burglary, the daily grind to fund the habit, is how most end up detoxing in jail.

Many are given the alternative of court ordered treatment or prison or have access to treatment in prison.
Like with voluntary treatment, the long term success rate is dismal.

Detox is the pause that refreshes. Treatment does not cure addiction.

I once had a man, a long term addict, who told me he needed heroin the way a normie needs air to breathe and if given a choice.........He was resigned to death by OD.

The intent to survive has to be greater than the impulse to relapse, regardless of the substance.

The former crack epidemic tended to be perceived as a mostly black ghetto problem. The current heroin epidemic does not discriminate. Prior to the NH primary, poll after poll, showed that the heroin epidemic was a top issue in that state. The voters expected candidates to promise to " do something", throw Federal $ at the problem, and make it go away.

Seems to me no one starts using pain pills recreationally or heroin with the intent of becoming addicted. It's a serious case of ego, terminal uniqueness/ life without consequences- emotional and cognitive immaturity regardless of chronological age.

How quickly the brain is rewired to protect and sustain addiction, at any cost. Why cope with life's ups and downs when the magic dose can make it all better in the moment?

It's rather fascinating that " taking the edge off" with alcohol or weed is culturally acceptable.

it's rather fascinating how alcoholism is tolerated by the US culture.

It's rather fascinating that addiction to pain pills is not perceived as bad as heroin, or crack or crystal meth.

Then there's polysubstance abuse, any port in a storm will do.

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Old 03-31-2016, 10:30 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Lightbulb Should Heroin Addicts go to Jail?

Heroin distributors and dealers should go to jail.
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Old 03-31-2016, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Treatment in jail is a good option.
How is this good? I ask because people coming out of prison say drugs in there were just as easy to find as it was on the outside.
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Old 03-31-2016, 09:37 PM
 
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No I think people who want to put addicts in jail should be put in jail
Better that junkies are locked up then allowed to be free so their kind can keep stealing. Where I live we've got a BIG meth problem and, they need to be locked up. Period.

Tho to be fair; tossing their kind in with general pop, especially for a 1st time offender, I DO have a problem with. But regardless, they need to held in at least a treatment place till they're "clean".
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Old 03-31-2016, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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should they be arrested YES- then they can mandate to be sent to rehab etc, only way to get it done - jail time only to get them settled or sober and out of harms way or harm others - like a drunk
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Old 03-31-2016, 10:08 PM
 
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should they be arrested YES- then they can mandate to be sent to rehab etc, only way to get it done - jail time only to get them settled or sober and out of harms way or harm others - like a drunk
And after they are arrested who is going to pay for their rehab
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Old 03-31-2016, 11:47 PM
 
Location: USA
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I say yes because heroin addiction isn't a victimless crime. They rob, steal and hurt people all along their addictive journey.
Most of them rob and steal because they're repeating offenders who've been in an out of jail before. If they've been in jail then many employers wouldn't hire them because the addict would be considered a felon. If they can't get money that way then they'll resort back to what they did before. If you're addicted to drugs then you're sick and you need rehab, not jail time. It's an illness that won't be cured by rotting in a jail cell. Once they get out they'll do it again which could end them back in the cell. This is how we waste our taxpayer dollars. Wasting it over and over again on the same person.
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Old 04-01-2016, 04:00 AM
 
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Well, many people can say what they want. But, if they commit a crime then yes, if caught. Detox, rehab etc etc are useless as it just puts them on methodone.
Now, if we had a war on drugs, we wouldnt have Heroin in the USA.
Poppy fields were off limits during the war, period. 75% of worlds Heroin comes from Afghanistan. And we chose not to disrupt the peoples income..
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Old 04-01-2016, 04:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Yep, anything to keep the money machine chugging along, right? With addicts as the fodder for the machinery.
You think treatment is free?
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