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Old 04-08-2016, 12:14 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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As I get older I am no longer certain that the United States is the best place to live.
I'm thinking that, as well. It sure as hell seems to be a sinking ship.
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Old 04-08-2016, 12:19 PM
 
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The average house size in Sweden today is the same as the average U.S. house size was in 1950.

So, to achieve Sweden's social equality, everybody in America would need to live in much smaller houses than they live in today.

You are aware that different countries use different methods to measure the living area of a house? How many Swedish houses do you have surveyed? It's not possible to compare the house sizes in different countries, when every country uses different methods.
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Old 04-08-2016, 12:25 PM
 
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Where are all these supposed savings for Swedes? Why do Swedes have less disposable income than Americans?

OECD Disposable Income Index:

U.S.: 10
Sweden: 5

OECD Better Life Index

There's a drop-down option to compare to another country at the link.

It doesn't make much sense to compare the disposable income, when in some countries you have to make big out of pocket payments for certain things that are already covered in other countries. It's also not possible to adjust the income to the different price levels in different countries.
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Old 04-08-2016, 12:32 PM
 
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It doesn't make much sense to compare the disposable income, when in some countries you have to make big out of pocket payments for certain things that are already covered in other countries.
That would only be true if ALL in a certain country have to make a big out of pocket payment for "certain things." Of course, not all do.
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Old 04-08-2016, 12:52 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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You are aware that different countries use different methods to measure the living area of a house?
I am aware that square feet or square meters are pretty standard methods of measuring the living area of a house.

One can easily convert between them.
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:15 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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So what? Europeans generally don't have the same urge for a massive house like Americans do.
That is true. But it would be a hard sell for most Americans - whether liberal or conservative - to slash their house sizes by more than half to achieve that level of social equality in this country. It kind of defeats the purpose of living in the U.S.

Just sayin.
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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so what. you cant compare quality of life in switzerland to the us.

id love to live in switzerland over the us.
What's stopping you?
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:49 PM
 
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That is true. But it would be a hard sell for most Americans - whether liberal or conservative - to slash their house sizes by more than half to achieve that level of social equality in this country. It kind of defeats the purpose of living in the U.S.

Just sayin.
I live in a town of 40,000+ here in the US and when I lived in Sweden, I lived in a same size town and I have to say that most houses here are smaller than the houses in my Swedish home town.
So, I don't know where you find your facts, but I can tell you there is nowhere in hell most American houses are twice as big than the Swedish ones. You are talking about newly built, I guess? Did you include trailer parks to get your average square footage in US?
BTW. large mansions are just penis extenders Other than that, they are pointless.
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Old 04-08-2016, 02:02 PM
 
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The real economic success story is Scandinavia.


How are Volvo and Saab doing these days?
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Old 04-08-2016, 02:04 PM
 
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I am aware that square feet or square meters are pretty standard methods of measuring the living area of a house.

One can easily convert between them.

LOL, sorry but that's so ridiculous. You don't understand what I meant. Why is it so difficult to understand that its possible to measure the living space in many different ways? It's naive to think that all countries use the same way to measure the living space.

In some countries the living space is measured by just multiplying the outer length and width of the house, they also consider the the space that is covered by all interior walls as living space. In other countries they subtract all spaces that are covered by walls, logs, closets, doors, stairs and all spaces below roof slopes. In some countries the living space of the rooms in the basement are included into the official living space. In other countries they are not. In some countries the wintergarden is considered as living space, in other countries they are not.
We also don't know how housing units are defined. Do all countries consider an "Einliegerwohnung" (granny flat) as a seperate housing unit or not?

A typically newly build single-family house with basement in Germany has a living space of about 160m² (by using the German methods of measurement. But if you would use the American way to measure the living space it would have most likely about 250m². It's not possible to create a statistic that consider the different methods of measurement in different countries.

American houses are certainly larger than houses in Sweden or Germany, but no one knows how much bigger.
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