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Old 04-03-2016, 04:49 AM
 
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How bout if you start the trend, try it for a while then report back on how well that worked out for you?
Nope i love working!!

But i'll pay taxes so most of people can get out of labor force.

We don't need them.

They can be bums.
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Old 04-04-2016, 04:28 PM
 
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50 is still young. Why not increase it to 55 or 60?
I'm 64 .. Yaaaaaaaaa

Oh wait.
I still work for a living.
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Old 04-04-2016, 04:37 PM
 
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Much like what seemed like endless extensions of unemployment benefits the suspension of work requirement for welfare/FS benefits was in response to an urgent situation. The economy has improved much since and thus time to end.


Keep in mind many were wailing and moaning when finally unemployment extensions ended with dire predictions of all sorts of unforeseen consequences. None of which truly happened in any large way. The economy has continued growing and the labor market is actually improving. Too many persons got too comfortable sitting home collecting unemployment bennies instead of taking work, any sort of work that would keep them in the labor market.
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Old 04-04-2016, 04:52 PM
 
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That's a lot of money that big agriculture will have to get some where else.
The last time they cut food stamps, to make up for the loss to Big Ag, they increased subsidies to them.
Freebies for corporate lobbyists but nothing for anyone else

Farm bill: Still millions for fat cats in Congress, cuts for the poor
Farm bill: Still millions for fat cats in Congress, cuts for the poor - latimes
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Old 04-04-2016, 05:08 PM
 
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The last time they cut food stamps, to make up for the loss to Big Ag, they increased subsidies to them.
Freebies for corporate lobbyists but nothing for anyone else

Farm bill: Still millions for fat cats in Congress, cuts for the poor
Farm bill: Still millions for fat cats in Congress, cuts for the poor - latimes

This isn't a "cut", just going back to what things were before.


Debates such as this give fuel to those whom loathe various suspensions or extensions of federal programs due to this or that "emergency". Once the thing is done it becomes difficult to undo.


Many special breaks/suspensions were put in place during the past fiscal/economic crisis that Democrats and others have been trying since to make permanent. One is the suspension of tax liability from mortgage forgiveness.
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Old 04-04-2016, 05:17 PM
 
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Much like what seemed like endless extensions of unemployment benefits the suspension of work requirement for welfare/FS benefits was in response to an urgent situation. The economy has improved much since and thus time to end.


Great, we need to end Big AG subsidies then as well which is majorly abused

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-for-the-rich/

Farm subsidies have for decades disproportionately benefited richer Americans.

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In the past 20 years, at least $11.3 million in farm subsidies went to 50 billionaires -- including Microsoft co-founder Paul G. Allen, investment giant Charles Schwab and Chick-fil-A founder S. Truett Cathy.

“That just shows how really skewed these farm subsidies have become and how far they've drifted from their original purpose, which was to give a leg up to smaller, struggling family farmers,” said Cox, who pushes for farm subsidy reform.
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Old 04-04-2016, 05:23 PM
 
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This isn't a "cut", just going back to what things were before.


Debates such as this give fuel to those whom loathe various suspensions or extensions of federal programs due to this or that "emergency". Once the thing is done it becomes difficult to undo.


Many special breaks/suspensions were put in place during the past fiscal/economic crisis that Democrats and others have been trying since to make permanent. One is the suspension of tax liability from mortgage forgiveness.
They increased subsidies to BIG AG as well, but they did not cut it back to what it was before.
No, they made it even worse by increasing subsidies to Big Ag which is full of corruption.

When it was created, it was intended for struggling small farmers.
Instead, the majority is being lapped up by fraudulent hucksters.

Majority of farming is done by Big Corporate Farms anyhow worth billions, that crushed out many small family farms in the 80's.

The gravy train needs to end for them
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