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Old 04-05-2016, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Prescott Arizona
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This is how Republican Governors are planning to win elections for their party, as they know the numbers are against them. Factor in youthful voters who are adamantly opposed to rich old white guys telling them what to believe in, or what women can do with their uterus, and you can see the demographics are shifting.

It's not as easy for the poor, especially those who don't drive, to get a photo I.D. if the deck is stacked against them. For many who live in poverty, they are losing the right vote


Wisconsin
Is this real life? Who in their right mind would be OK with people casting votes without valid state ID. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.

How is this even a partisan issue? Are people really OK with the amount of voter fraud that comes with not requiring a valid state ID to vote? Why even have elections if that's going to be the case? Furthermore, if you're too poor, irrespinsible or downright too stupid to to have a valid state ID, you have a lot more things to worry about than voting.

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Old 04-05-2016, 06:01 PM
 
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Just saw a interview with the Wisc. LT Governor and she said she has not heard of one complaint about the Id issue all day. Just a tad under the 300k the op was worried about.
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Old 04-05-2016, 07:01 PM
 
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Dead people voting disenfranchises living voters.

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Old 04-05-2016, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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The only chance republicans have anymore is to manipulate the elections.
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Old 04-05-2016, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Just saw a interview with the Wisc. LT Governor and she said she has not heard of one complaint about the Id issue all day. Just a tad under the 300k the op was worried about.

She is a dingbat! Server problems hinder early voting in Wisconsin
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Old 04-05-2016, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Redistricting is another matter, and is something that is utilized by both political parties when they are in a position to do so, and I agree it's nefarious. For the record, last year I voted FOR an amendment to my state's Constitution to take the district map out of the legislature's hands and give it to a bipartisan board. It passed with flying colors. .

No, in this supreme court case Texas was circumventing one person- one vote, quite different than normal redistricting around party lines.




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Yet you aren't arguing that wealthy and middle class whites are also being negatively effected by these laws, you are arguing that it's a problem specific to minorities, poor people, etc. I don't see how we can arrive at that conclusion unless we accept the premise that those affected are too dumb and incapable of getting the free ID.

I don't see how you can dismiss the fact that this law is focused on people living on the edge that may not have either the means or the time to acquire an ID, very few will even argue that fact.


Most people that are middle/upper class already have licenses or the means to easily acquire such so who do you think this law is aimed towards.

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Old 04-05-2016, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Wisconsin 'Voter I.D. Law' could disenfranchise 300,000 voters

Just what the Pubs want.

They're afraid of voters. And they should be.
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:23 PM
 
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We should be making it easier for people to vote not harder. When has any election been changed because a voter didn't have the proper ID....none.
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:33 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Is this real life? Who in their right mind would be OK with people casting votes without valid state ID. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.

How is this even a partisan issue? Are people really OK with the amount of voter fraud that comes with not requiring a valid state ID to vote? Why even have elections if that's going to be the case? Furthermore, if you're too poor, irrespinsible or downright too stupid to to have a valid state ID, you have a lot more things to worry about than voting.
Still waiting on someone to prove there there is voter fraud.


Further more, people in every state vote without valid ID when they mail in ballots.
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:45 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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The only chance republicans have anymore is to manipulate the elections.
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