The great things Obama, Hillary and/or Bernie (and the Democrats) have done and will do for America! (illegal, statistics)
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Oh, Puhleez! You post a link that quotes the little traitor, Luis Gutierrez. Gimme a break! He's a perfect example of democrat behavior---putting illegals first and foremost. He has even said that he is in congress to work for the illegals. He keeps getting re-elected because the corrupt Illinois democrat machine carved out a district just for him. It's filled with clueless voters who, like automatons, always vote straight "D" without so much of a thought. They are too ignorant to know that by voting for him they are voting against their best interests.
I guess the informed and intelligent voters support no tax cuts for the middle class and trillions of dollars in tax cuts for the rich.
And you believe the government when they tell you that there are 11.2 million illegals in this country---despite pointing out the facts. Once again, every single day, illegals sneak across the border or overstay visas. Math is not my strong suit but even I know that the 11 million number is much larger.
"The United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has estimated that 11.4 million unauthorized immigrants lived in the United States in January 2012. According to DHS estimates, "the number of illegal immigrants peaked around 12 million in 2007 and has gradually declined to closer to 11 million."
The "Pew Research Center says (11.3 million); the Center for Migration Studies says (11 million), and the Center for Immigration Studies, which advocates for low levels of legal immigration says (11-12 million)."
But I guess in matters of immigration numbers we can't trust the Department of Homeland Security, the Pew Research Center, and the Center for Migration Studies. Instead we should trust Donald Trump and Rush Limbaugh.
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You point out all that you think the dems have done for Americans but, yet, what good is it when they fight tooth and nail to put illegals ahead of the millions of suffering underemployed and unemployed Americans? The dems are laughing themselves sick because there are voters who still think dems care about Americans. If you want to believe that dems still care about Americans despite the evidence saying otherwise, that's your prerogative.
And most jobs illegals take are jobs Americans don't want. If you truly cared about jobs you would vote to bring millions of high paying jobs back to America (jobs that illegals could not get).
But instead you vote to keep tax breaks for corporations that outsource jobs and keep all the high paying jobs in Asia.
Republicans attack Obama for immigration but, "President Obama has deported more people than any U.S. president before him, and almost more than every other president combined from the 20th century."
But, let's for the fun of it, assume that Obama deported all those illegals (which wasn't done) but for argument's sake --- What good is it when he turned around and dictated DACA for DREAMers complete with work permits and cheap in-state tuition for illegals? Then he tried to pull a DAPA which would give amnesty to the parents of the DREAMers---that is, until he was stopped by the court. Even then, he violated the court order and still amnestied thousands. He only permanently stopped when he was caught disobeying the court order.
You keep deflecting by saying republicans didn't do this or that. NO ONE IS DISPUTING THAT. In fact, I pointed out to you several times that neither party is looking out for Americans.
We are talking about what the democrats did or didn't do. What republicans did or didn't do is NOT relevant to this thread. If you want to discuss the republicans, start a thread.
Democrats, in recent times, have put illegal aliens ahead of the millions of suffering underemployed and unemployed Americans. This is despicable considering that democrats of yore would never have tolerated that behavior, not only from republicans but especially not from their own party.
Raising minimum wage is worthless when we have 8 million no-match SSNs in the work force and dems consistently block E-verify from being the law of the land. Not only that, but DACA gave work permits to DREAMers, who turn around and take jobs they have no right to take. What good is a higher minimum wage when an American can't find a job at all?
Then you repeat the lie that illegals take jobs that Americans don't want. Open your eyes and look around---you will see Americans working back of the house restaurant jobs. In fact, many chain restaurants use E-verify and have no problems finding American citizens and legal immigrants to take those jobs. Many Americans in the construction trades have lost their livelihoods because they couldn't compete with sleazy contractors who hired illegals and paid them under the table. You will see Americans cleaning hotel rooms and working in nursing homes.
Your sources are from a republican led House Judiciary Committee. This republican committee claims Obama is manipulating figures by using numbers from a Border Patrol program.
But "the George W. Bush administration also counted immigrants caught at the border, in both general enforcement and as part of a program started in 2008 called the Alien Transfer Exit Program, the program with which the committee takes issue. Bush also deported fewer people per year — far fewer in some years — than the current administration."
GW Bush used the same border patrol figures that the republicans are now attacking Obama for using.
Even if Obama deported any illegals, he undid it all by dictating DACA and then trying to cram DAPA down our throats. He is NOT the "deporter in chief". Period.
Even if Obama deported any illegals, he undid it all by dictating DACA and then trying to cram DAPA down our throats. He is NOT the "deporter in chief". Period.
According to the nation’s largest Latino advocacy organization he is.
"President Barack Obama has lost the nation’s largest Latino advocacy organization. The National Council of La Raza is set to declare Obama “the deporter-in-chiefâ€
And you just can't stop peoples welfare checks and then tell them to go pick our food crops.
Yes, you can.
It's easy.
Just stop issuing the checks.
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It would take a government agency that would find them jobs, transportation to those jobs, ex.ex. and republicans would oppose the bigger government.
So according to you, they are big babies who can't relocate and look for a job?
Nonsense.
Just like everyone else, they can work and support themselves -- or starve.
I couldn't care less either way.
Nor should anyone else care.
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Republicans attack Obama for immigration but, "President Obama has deported more people than any U.S. president before him, and almost more than every other president combined from the 20th century."
Obama has tried to legalize up to six million illegals, but you call him the "deporter in chief."
Your sources are from a republican led House Judiciary Committee. This republican committee claims Obama is manipulating figures by using numbers from a Border Patrol program.
But "the George W. Bush administration also counted immigrants caught at the border, in both general enforcement and as part of a program started in 2008 called the Alien Transfer Exit Program, the program with which the committee takes issue. Bush also deported fewer people per year — far fewer in some years — than the current administration."
GW Bush used the same border patrol figures that the republicans are now attacking Obama for using.
You try to pick fights with this very antagonistic attitude, then you wonder why you lack responses. Not that hard to understand really. As I said I could post a number of links comparing the economy today to the one he inherited after 8 years of a Republican President. I could point out that he last time the federal budget was balanced was under Bill Clinton. But why exactly would I bother with you? You will simply dismiss the links as "lib" media propaganda as you hurl your angry insults.
Yeah good luck with that.
The last time the budget was balanced (sort of) was under Bill Clinton. Correct me, but didn't he have a Republican congress? Doesn't congress control spending? As far as Obama turning around the economy, perhaps you could provide some specific examples of what HE did (not congress) that have led to the turnaround. Technically, the recession ended a few months after he took office and had NOTHING to do with anything he actually did. Is the economy better than 8 years ago, of course, but it's really a stretch to give Obama credit for turning it around (and I would if I could).
Why would I bother to point out that the President turned around the worst economic crisis this country has seen since the depression, a crisis that occurred on the Republican's watch, when you will just shoot it down with nonsense even though it's a fact. Us "Libs" see how you guys operate. You dismiss every link as left wing propaganda. You are such an angry bunch many will support a complete whack job candidate who could literally strangle a puppy on camera and retain support from the right.
It was headed to the poop shoot, until 2010 Mid-terms put on the brakes.
Oh how you forget, this is not a dictatorship. Congress has the power to turn the worst economic crisis around. Not the President, who's only job is to sign law made by congress and enforce those laws.
Why would I bother to point out that the President turned around the worst economic crisis this country has seen since the depression, a crisis that occurred on the Republican's watch, when you will just shoot it down with nonsense even though it's a fact. Us "Libs" see how you guys operate. You dismiss every link as left wing propaganda. You are such an angry bunch many will support a complete whack job candidate who could literally strangle a puppy on camera and retain support from the right.
The financial crisis was due to the fact of deregulation by Bill Clinton.. Bush wanted to investigate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac numerous times and the liberals Barney Frank and Maxine Waters stopped him.. do your homework and find out why this set up was due to the fact that the left wanted everyone to own a home regardless if they had a job or not.
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