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Old 04-13-2016, 04:52 PM
 
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You get more shrill with each new post.

HB2 and all laws like it will eventually be deemed unconstitutional. It WILL happen, despite low polling numbers (). So, you can continue to rant on a cyber street corner or you can get over yourself. Your choice.
Never say never, but that's the difference between ssm and these sexual expression bathroom and non-discrimination laws. I don't think there's a case [yet] that forces states or cities to cover lgbt under non-discrimination laws. With our bizarre courts, who knows what type of rationale an odd judge will come up with to impose these laws nationally.

 
Old 04-13-2016, 04:55 PM
 
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That's their CHOICE to do so (they don't have to wait until they get to the beach to change into their swimsuits, and have enough time to dry off before leaving the beach). Girls in school-mandated swim class DON'T have those options.
Go to Hawaii, its a normal thing to change this way. There are places to change, but if you want to change out in public, in Hawaii for example, go ahead brah.
 
Old 04-13-2016, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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No, you are deflecting, why are you refusing to answer my question. If Buck and I wander into the women's restroom are you gonna throw us out? He has a vagina after all, so Buck would be able to use the women's restroom, and of course I would be able to use the women's restroom because I can simply claim I too have a vagina because no one is going to be inspecting my genitalia to prove I am in fact a man with a penis.

You guys are stuck on this whole men exposing themselves to minors that you somehow think it is okay to punish those that aren't even exposing themselves to minors. Though you are basically saying a woman can expose her vagina to little girls and that is cool with you, and grown men can expose themselves to little boys because they too are the "same below the belt."

The nonsense is coming from your posts where somehow you are fearing some sort of penis boogieman that doesn't actually exist.

So get back to me when you figure out that adults exposing themselves to children is bad, even when it is the same sex.
No deflection on my part, just you cherry picking. Penis boogeyman? Because no one has ever committed indecent exposure ever! I've aleeady told you ive experienced it myself yet you choose to ignore that in your selfishness and narcissism. And of course if someone who looks like Buck Angel walks into the women's room most women will assume he's in the wrong space. For the umpteenth time, Buck has to deal with the consequences of his choices if he desires an intersex body.

Speaking of nonsense, I cannot take you seriously when you argue that female children in the same locker room with adult wen is exposure. See my previous lengthy, logical arguments about the difference between UNWANTED exposure, sameness of anatomy, and girls' feelings about undressing in front of men even if those men don't expose their genitalia. Once again if your argument is serious then you're telling me 5 year olds should be left alone to use the bathroom, shower, and change alone in all-juvenile spaces. Answer the question: are you arguing for this???

Why do you think you have the right to go where others aren't comfortable and why is sexual predation and harassment ok with you???
 
Old 04-13-2016, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Was it Deutsche Bank that pushed them over the edge? Looks like NC's convictions and principles are overridden by $$$.
 
Old 04-13-2016, 05:05 PM
 
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No deflection on my part, just you cherry picking. Penis boogeyman? Because no one has ever committed indecent exposure ever! I've aleeady told you ive experienced it myself yet you choose to ignore that in your selfishness and narcissism. And of course if someone who looks like Buck Angel walks into the women's room most women will assume he's in the wrong space. For the umpteenth time, Buck has to deal with the consequences of his choices if he desires an intersex body.

Why do you think you have the right to go where others aren't comfortable and why is sexual predation and harassment ok with you???
Speaking of cherry picking, where did I say an adult has never committed indecent exposure?

So you have experienced a transgender person exposing their penis to you in the locker room? I highly doubt that.

The only sexual predator here is yourself by justifying adults exposing themselves to children as long as their genitalia match.
 
Old 04-13-2016, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Was it Deutsche Bank that pushed them over the edge? Looks like NC's convictions and principles are overridden by $$$.
I think it was the porn site that decided to block all NC IP addresses.
 
Old 04-13-2016, 05:31 PM
 
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Was it Deutsche Bank that pushed them over the edge? Looks like NC's convictions and principles are overridden by $$$.
Deutsche Bank employs 1,000 people in Cary, NC. If Cary didn't have sexual expression bathrooms and anti-lgbt discrimination law, shame on Deutsche for letting their workers remain under such oppressive conditions.
 
Old 04-13-2016, 06:31 PM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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As I've written before, this is just hypocrisy by PayPal. I went to the PayPal website and copied this:

Worldwide Operations
12312 Port Grace Boulevard
La Vista, Nebraska 68128

Look up the laws in Nebraska.

[URL="http://www.towleroad.com/2016/03/nebraska-senate-shuts-bill-protect-lgbt-people-workplace-video/"]Nebraska Senate Shuts Down Bill That Would Protect LGBT People in the Workplace [/URL]
 
Old 04-13-2016, 06:46 PM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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I'd like to elaborate on my last comment. On PayPal's website, it shows job openings in countries that kill gay people. But let's look at where they're hiring people in the U.S.

[url]https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/jobs/locations[/url]

Now look at the states listed by the ACLU that offer no laws to protect the LGBT community.

[url]https://www.aclu.org/map/non-discrimination-laws-state-state-information-map[/url]

On this and the other thread (about Mississippi) my posts are always answered with "you don't get it..they don't want to give the state revenue....blah, blah."

So somebody please explain this to me. They have job openings in Texas, but they won't give jobs to people in NC because it has similar laws?
 
Old 04-13-2016, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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Paypal does business in countries that jails/executes gays/transgender but they have a problem with who can use a bathroom in NC.
So, now conservatives are worried about how gays are treated in other countries? They sure bring it up a lot.
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