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Old 04-08-2016, 07:44 PM
 
Location: louisville
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I love the 'those who don't understand science' claim to credibility.

 
Old 04-08-2016, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Volunteer State
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... and then there's scientific Theory supported by a consilience of observed evidence.
I love the bolded...

People such as this poster can no longer justify the use of the word "consensus", as most people with even an inkling of scientific knowledge know the absolute absurdity of using it in conjunction with any scientific endeavor.

So they pick a synonym in the hopes that it will sound different enough to fool the idiots that don't know any better.

Nice try.
 
Old 04-08-2016, 07:45 PM
 
Location: A house
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I remember when the consensus of science was the the earth revolved around the sun or that the earth was flat.

These absolutely crazy global warming idiots are so frickin' clueless, it makes one's head spin.
 
Old 04-08-2016, 07:52 PM
 
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I think the point shown by the investigations so far was that Exxon wasn't ignoring the science at all. They made their future business and risk management plans based on the science...
Absolutely false, again it's expensive to extract CO2 from natural gas.
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Natuna Gas Field - Offshore Technology

A 1980, 50-50 venture in Natuna D-Alpha area, East Natuna, between Pertamina (Indonesia's state-owned petroleum company) and Exxon Mobil Corp of the US, didn't result in production. The 71% CO2 content made gas extraction from the huge 1.3-trillion-cubic-metre area expensive, and development difficult. Despite Exxon's $400m and Pertamina's $60m investments, the Indonesian Government terminated its contract with Exxon in 2007 leaving Pertamina in charge
 
Old 04-08-2016, 07:55 PM
 
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I love the bolded...

People such as this poster can no longer justify the use of the word "consensus", as most people with even an inkling of scientific knowledge know the absolute absurdity of using it in conjunction with any scientific endeavor.

So they pick a synonym in the hopes that it will sound different enough to fool the idiots that don't know any better.

Nice try.
So you don't know what consilience means? That's why there is a scientific consensus. Because of a consilience of evidence. Converging evidence from many different lines of investigation across many different fields is the very essence of science endeavor. How is that an 'absolute absurdity'?


http://riaus.org.au/articles/consilience-in-science/

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Old 04-08-2016, 07:57 PM
 
Location: louisville
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Absolutely false, again it's expensive to extract CO2 from natural gas.
Hopefully the secondary market for co2 for agriculture and chemical production can lead to a less expensive extraction process.

Good post as always.
 
Old 04-08-2016, 08:23 PM
 
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Absolutely false, again it's expensive to extract CO2 from natural gas.
Not false at all. You appear to be trying to twist the south-east Asia gas field project to use as a red herring while ignoring the rest of the evidence. That's the sort of dishonest tactic you'll find on a conspiracy blog.
 
Old 04-08-2016, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Volunteer State
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So you don't know what consilience means? That's why there is a scientific consensus. Because of a consilience of evidence. Converging evidence from many different lines of investigation across many different fields is the very essence of science endeavor. How is that an 'absolute absurdity'?


The Importance of Consilience in Science - RiAusRiAus - Australia
The statements are synonymous, if you please.

A consilience of evidence....

A consensus of scientists....

Trust me, I know exactly what it means. The fact that a "scientific consensus" is two lies for the price of one has damaged this particular statement to the point of making people like you have to find something else for you to state in forums like this. The absolute absurdity is is use of those two words together. Science does not work by consensus... never has, and never will. Anyone that has worked in the sciences knows this. Only politicians and idiots use these terms. Real scientists don't.

And I've never actually denied said evidence, now have I? Find even one of my posts that say such, I dare you. What I am skeptical about is the hyperbole behind said data's interpretations. Not once have I stated the climate isn't changing, or that man doesn't have a malevolent effect.

Why is it so hard to swallow that there just might be learned people of science (like me) that has issues with the hype and politics concerning a scientific topic?

It seems to me that those accusing "deniers" of using their religion to justify their stance are emulating those very people by crying blasphemy when someone doesn't accept their stance verbatim.

Hypocrisy at it finest.
 
Old 04-08-2016, 08:41 PM
 
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You're basing this on single email sent by one person that hasn't worked for Exxon for a long time.
Nope.
 
Old 04-08-2016, 08:42 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Meh......They would just plead insanity.
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