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Hmmm. I am 68. I remember when the "global cooling myth" was the modern science of the day in the late '60s early '70s. It was on the news broadcasts and everything. what a conspiracy.
Trust me, I know exactly what it means. The fact that a "scientific consensus" is two lies for the price of one has damaged this particular statement to the point of making people like you have to find something else for you to state in forums like this. The absolute absurdity is is use of those two words together. Science does not work by consensus... never has, and never will. Anyone that has worked in the sciences knows this. Only politicians and idiots use these terms. Real scientists don't.
And I've never actually denied said evidence, now have I? Find even one of my posts that say such, I dare you. What I am skeptical about is the hyperbole behind said data's interpretations. Not once have I stated the climate isn't changing, or that man doesn't have a malevolent effect.
Why is it so hard to swallow that there just might be learned people of science (like me) that has issues with the hype and politics concerning a scientific topic?
It seems to me that those accusing "deniers" of using their religion to justify their stance are emulating those very people by crying blasphemy when someone doesn't accept their stance verbatim.
Hypocrisy at it finest.
Do you want to calmly and rationally discuss the consilience of evidence or do you just want to have an emotional ideological rant and attack strawmen?
I remember when the consensus of science was the the earth revolved around the sun
It still is.
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or that the earth was flat.
You must be very old. The ancient Greeks understood that the earth wasn't flat about two and half thousand years ago. Eratosthenes even estimated the earth's circumference around 240 BC.
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These absolutely crazy global warming idiots are so frickin' clueless, it makes one's head spin.
Is it wise for people in glass houses to throw stones?
I think the point shown by the investigations so far was that Exxon wasn't ignoring the science at all. Internal documents show they were making their future business and risk management plans based on the science (eg drilling in the Arctic once all the sea-ice melts) while simultaneously being less than transparent with their stockholders and funding anti-science 'think-tanks' and groups to spread doubt about the science to the general public and governments in order to maintain their profit margins as long as they could.
"Hiding" would have been a better term, same business decisions that companies use when they produce a defective product all about the bottom line, GM ignition switch comes to mind.
I read your myth quote, but I was around when they were teaching global cooling. You can post the myth thing all you want, doesn't mean it is true.
It wasn't a quote. It was a link to an article (which you clearly didn't read) in the AMS science journal that reviewed the published research and views of scientists in the 1970's. Just because there was a flurry of media articles about global cooling in the 1970s doesn't mean there was a scientific consensus amongst scientists (which is what the myth claims). The research shows that some scientists discussed the potential cooling from sulphate particulates in the atmosphere, whilst most were discussing potential global warming from greenhouse gases.
Look what happened in the media last year with hysterically inaccurate claims - 'scientists say a Mini Ice Age is coming!' - which was just media misrepresentation of one scientist's speculation at a conference of a possible period of a small reduction in solar insolation in the near future, similar to that of the Maunder Minimum period.
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