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When people are incorrect about a portion of their thought process I can disagree with that incorrect portion but agree on another section. For instance if you said "Hitler was a great public speaker and therefore a good man." I can agree his public speaking was enthralling, but can disagree that he was a good person.
You really didn't disagree with anything I said but worded like you were. If artificially lowering interest rates are wrong, the rest is irrelevant.
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You simply want to link two separate ideas (artificial inflation due to 15/hr and low interest rates effects on savings) that do not need to be coupled together. 15/hr will have a massive effect on purchase power which will be more devastating to older people on fixed incomes. Saying that is A-OK because interest rates are low is asinine. The nice thing about interest rates being low is that a smart person with liquidity can use that liquidity to play the market and get higher returns then their interest rate on the money being borrowed.
It is all linked together and I have explained why many times. It's all because of a singular desire by the government......making sure that Wall Street thrives over every other thing. Stop it and many other things fix themselves. Why is Socialism good where it comes to Wall Street but bad for everyone else?
And if no one worked there, Walmart wouldn't exist.
Sure, but the empire of Wal Mart wasnt built by these people. They do as they are told and maintain. If they dont, someone else will. I know what your saying, but it isnt what made this company what it is. And it is not a charity to just hand over 100% pay raise to satisfy the publics perception of living wage.
Live within your wage, and guess what, its a living wage... I am sure many have luxuries that are not needed, ie cell phone (land lines are pretty cheap), internet (not needed, go to public library), cable, tattoos, fancy nails and hair, eating out more than once a month is a luxury in some countrys, etc etc.
You work, correct at Portland Airport, whats your wage and what do you do while living in Milwaukee, Or.
Sure, but the empire of Wal Mart wasnt built by these people. They do as they are told and maintain. If they dont, someone else will. I know what your saying, but it isnt what made this company what it is. And it is not a charity to just hand over 100% pay raise to satisfy the publics perception of living wage.
Live within your wage, and guess what, its a living wage... I am sure many have luxuries that are not needed, ie cell phone (land lines are pretty cheap), internet (not needed, go to public library), cable, tattoos, fancy nails and hair, eating out more than once a month is a luxury in some countrys, etc etc.
You work, correct at Portland Airport, whats your wage and what do you do.
Actually it was built by their employees because without them, Walmart would be nothing more than a small mom and pop business with the family members working the cash registers. Without the employees, Walmart doesn't exist.
I work, though not at the airport, you must be confusing me with someone else.
Actually it was built by their employees because without them, Walmart would be nothing more than a small mom and pop business with the family members working the cash registers. Without the employees, Walmart doesn't exist.
I work, though not at the airport, you must be confusing me with someone else.
And it is Milwaukie, not Milwaukee.
The Walton family built it, the employees maintain it.
And with PDX in your name, that is Portland Airport, seems fit with yout name being CliftonPDX and living in Milwaukee..
The Walton family built it, the employees maintain it.
And with PDX in your name, that is Portland Airport, seems fit with yout name being CliftonPDX and living in Milwaukee..
The Walton family needs their employees to build their business. Not sure why you can't understand this....
People in Portland use PDX to refer to Portland, not just the airport. And Milwaukee is in Wisconsin.
The Walton family needs their employees to build their business. Not sure why you can't understand this....
People in Portland use PDX to refer to Portland, not just the airport. And Milwaukee is in Wisconsin.
I give up, your just playing on words and deflecting like the left does.,
And I spelt it wrong, here is your Milwaukie, right down from where I lived in West Linn. Home Page | City of Milwaukie Oregon Official Website
The Walton family needs their employees to build their business. Not sure why you can't understand this....
People in Portland use PDX to refer to Portland, not just the airport. And Milwaukee is in Wisconsin.
Here is the hard ugly truth. Walmart employees are literally a dime a dozen. You can have them quit all day long, and replace them all day long at the same cost. As for The Walton Family, they were pioneers that built a unique business at the time that clearly was not a dime a dozen or else dozens of other Walmart type stores would have sprung up everywhere being run by other people.
Why are CNAs, and RNs being paid so little now? Maybe that is the better question to ask. I would imagine a CNA should be making no less than $45K a year now even in the lowest COL parts of the country.
You may think it the better question to ask, but we do have to deal with reality. The wages are what they are. That's why I don't understand everyone getting all worked up about fast food workers and how they should make $15/hr. There are many workers making far less than $15/hr who are more skilled than the FF workers, and/or have more responsibility. Child care workers make an average of ~ $9/hr. http://www.payscale.com/research/US/...er/Hourly_Rate
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You clearly don't know the difference between a nurse and a nurse assistant. A CNA is not a skilled job, it's not even rated as skilled as a secretary or fast food cook.
A CNA only requires a GED, 50 hours of class and passing a test. Worth more than minimum wage, but hardly 'skilled', especially at entry level.
CNA Job Description: Are You Qualified? | CNA Exam Cram For example, a new CNA entry level minimum wage could start at $12per hour as compared to someone who has worked for five years or more who can demand up to $25an hour.
With experience comes more skill, responsibility and higher salary.
According to your first link, CNA is rated higher than a "fast food worker".
You are being disingenuous when you say a CNA has to only have a GED and 50 hours of education. The GED is the minimum requirement to get into a CNA program, and some are much more than 50 hours. In fact, where did you get that 50 hours from? CNA Classes & Careers | How to Become a CNA"CNA programs last from four to 16 weeks, depending on the institution."
WRT your second link, that's a rah-rah website of dubious credibility. Here's what payscale.com says about CNA wages (quoted from my earlier post in this thread, BTW)
Certified Nurse Assistant (CNA) Salary "The average pay for a Certified Nurse Assistant (CNA) is $11.10 per hour. Skills that are associated with high pay for this job are Telemetry and Intensive Care Unit (ICU). Pay for this job does not change much by experience, with the most experienced earning only a bit more than the least. People in this job generally don't have more than 20 years' experience."
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45K for a GED is pretty good. Sorry you think everyone needs to make $100,000 for showing up for work. Simply stating that "ohh noez, they make too much" is pedantic. How are you going to justify the increasing cost of healthcare to give these, and everyone else dealing with patient care, a raise. Or should be just give them close to an RN salary and tell people with a 4 year degree, professional licensing, and continual need to maintain competencies to suck it up?
It's not $45K, it's about $22K and it's not for GED work. The GED is the minimum requirement to get into a CNA program, which can be from 4 to 16 weeks.
No, it is to increase the spending power of the middle class and working poor. Why are people on her so satisfied with making less than $30K while their employers see their profit margins increase while passing on none of those profits to their employees?
Can you name one time since 1938 that raising the minimum wage resulted in minimum wage earners being financially better off over the long term? Long term meaning more than 2-3 years. I'm willing to bet that you can't, because it has never happened. What happens is that the minimum wage goes up, those making minimum wage are granted a temporary increase in spending power, and then the market corrects itself. After that, minimum wage goes right back to being minimum wage, and minimum wage earners are once again unable to afford the same things they were unable to afford prior to the increase.
If you were really interested in helping to increase the middle class, you would be advocating for programs which provide incentives for onshore manufacturing and disincentives for companies that move offshore. You would be pushing for tariffs on products that can be produced in the United States, and 100% import fees on anything made in third world countries. But that isn't your goal. Your goal is to "equalize" the playing field. Out of curiosity, are you a Sanders supporter? I only ask because you seem to have the same level of economic intelligence that he has - which isn't much.
Can you name one time since 1938 that raising the minimum wage resulted in minimum wage earners being financially better off over the long term? Long term meaning more than 2-3 years. I'm willing to bet that you can't, because it has never happened. What happens is that the minimum wage goes up, those making minimum wage are granted a temporary increase in spending power, and then the market corrects itself. After that, minimum wage goes right back to being minimum wage, and minimum wage earners are once again unable to afford the same things they were unable to afford prior to the increase.
If you were really interested in helping to increase the middle class, you would be advocating for programs which provide incentives for onshore manufacturing and disincentives for companies that move offshore. You would be pushing for tariffs on products that can be produced in the United States, and 100% import fees on anything made in third world countries. But that isn't your goal. Your goal is to "equalize" the playing field. Out of curiosity, are you a Sanders supporter? I only ask because you seem to have the same level of economic intelligence that he has - which isn't much.
Why was it O.K. to institute actions that greatly increased the net worth of the upper few percentage but it's wrong to now bring the lower rungs back up to where they were before the socialists actions that had them fall behind?
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