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Old 04-09-2016, 04:34 PM
 
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Prove that what I said is fallacious rhetoric.
I don't have to "prove" anything. You have to make valid statements. It's not my job to explain to you what a fallacy is, and by your response I can tell that you aren't clear. Here's a link to assist you in beginning your journey to valid arguments:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
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Old 04-09-2016, 04:45 PM
 
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I don't have to "prove" anything. You have to make valid statements. It's not my job to explain to you what a fallacy is, and by your response I can tell that you aren't clear. Here's a link to assist you in beginning your journey to valid arguments:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
You are the one who claimed that what I said was fallacious. You have not proven my statement wrong. Unless you can do that, then your statement is a lie.

I will, however, prove my point.

The Rise and Fall of Jim Crow . Jim Crow Stories . U.S. in World War I | PBS

In reading this, it mentions that the police in Houston,TX were particularly harsh towards Blacks in that city.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_v._Mississippi

Brown v Mississippi. Black murder suspects were beaten until the police could get a confession out of them. Keyword, suspects. There was no actual proof that they murdered a farmer.

I have more:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memphis_riots_of_1866

I figured it was common sense and historical fact that police were often rougher towards Blacks in the old days.
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Old 04-09-2016, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Don't patronize you? Is that an order?

And yeah...you don't like my foreign policy positions because I don't have a Netanyahu shrine in my home and I don't wanna drop a nuke on every Muslim nation in existence.
I don't have a Netanyahu shrine in my home and I never advocated for nuclear destruction.

Anyhow, any reason for being argumentative?

Last edited by CaseyB; 04-09-2016 at 07:07 PM.. Reason: Personal attack
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Old 04-09-2016, 10:07 PM
 
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Do you dismiss the fact that police response to a situation will vary based on known patterns of behavior?

Seems someone needs a reality check...
I gives a damn.

Cops had better treat me the SAME WAY they treat a white man. I don't care about what other blacks do. If I'm not given the royal white man treatment and it comes anywhere near an abuse of power, I will get a lawyer, file a complaint and check the viability of a lawsuit.

Cop's prior experiences mean nothing to me. I don't work for them...they work for us and they need to remember that.
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I don't have a Netanyahu shrine in my home and I never advocated for nuclear destruction.

Anyhow, any reason for being argumentative?
Yeah.

And I'm not the person who accused you of a personal attack BTW. I noticed that your post got changed. I don't snitch.
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:27 AM
 
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The calls still show that people are keen to what's going on.

I do wonder if Chicago is run my the mafia.

And then were have Baltimore, with its own corruption issues.
The mafia doesn't have the hold on Chicago like it did years ago.

What it is run by anymore is an oligarchy of connected people. The big difference today is that blacks, women, latinos etc. have a seat at the table alongside the traditional Daley family types. However, you DON'T ROCK THE BOAT or you get thrown off the boards, your kid doesn't get the job at the law firm with the fat city contracts etc etc.

Psssssh, calls from a few hundred in a city of millions while people like Jesse and Al are afraid to rock the boat shows you the reality.

The elite in the city "got theirs".
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:33 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Let me correct you sentence, "the fact that police respond to a situation will vary based upon perceived and preconceived patterns of behavior

So... change the behavior if you'd like a different response from the police.
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I gives a damn.

Cops had better treat me the SAME WAY they treat a white man. I don't care about what other blacks do. If I'm not given the royal white man treatment and it comes anywhere near an abuse of power, I will get a lawyer, file a complaint and check the viability of a lawsuit.

Cop's prior experiences mean nothing to me. I don't work for them...they work for us and they need to remember that.


Yeah.

And I'm not the person who accused you of a personal attack BTW. I noticed that your post got changed. I don't snitch.
Yeah it's funny. Ray Lewis's point is still moot.
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:40 AM
 
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I gives a damn.

Cops had better treat me the SAME WAY they treat a white man. I don't care about what other blacks do.
You should, given the crime statistics. There's no way the police can ignore those stats when responding to a call.
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:42 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The mafia doesn't have the hold on Chicago like it did years ago.

What it is run by anymore is an oligarchy of connected people. The big difference today is that blacks, women, latinos etc. have a seat at the table alongside the traditional Daley family types. However, you DON'T ROCK THE BOAT or you get thrown off the boards, your kid doesn't get the job at the law firm with the fat city contracts etc etc.

Psssssh, calls from a few hundred in a city of millions while people like Jesse and Al are afraid to rock the boat shows you the reality.

The elite in the city "got theirs".
And they're all Dems.
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Old 04-11-2016, 02:19 AM
 
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You should, given the crime statistics. There's no way the police can ignore those stats when responding to a call.
Whatever.

They won't be ignoring a lawsuit.
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