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Old 04-25-2016, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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What does the subject have to do with race?

What has Sharpton said that was racist?

Curt was free to make a comment knowing the nature of it could get him fired and chose to do it anyway. He needs to get over himself and take responsibility for his post. Men don't open mouth amd say things they know could get them in trouble and then get angry when they loose their job.
Really? How did he KNOW he was going to get fired for saying men should use the men's bathroom? His tweet used no slurs, expressed no violence or harassment, doesn't affect sports in any way, and expressed the biological fact of anatomy! Have you posted anything on CD that you know your job would fire you for if they knew it was you? Maybe your boss is a Schilling support and would like to fire you for this post. Difference of opinion is no justification for firing.
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Old 04-25-2016, 10:35 AM
 
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page after page in this thread of progs defending firing people for not being Progs.






that ought to tell everyone exactly where this thing is and who the BAD GUYS ARE.
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Old 04-25-2016, 10:38 AM
 
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77% of the public, agrees with Curt Schilling!
Good. Tell them to give him a job then.
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Total BS. Anyone can negotiate an employment contract for any reason whatsoever.
No they can't. Stop it.
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Old 04-25-2016, 11:21 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Based on what? What term of his contract did he actually break? Cite the specific passage.
Bahahahahaha. What does YOUR link say about it? Or are you just going to pretend you just posted a link?
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Old 04-25-2016, 11:24 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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For some, it may be both.

Can you imagine someone speaking out on social media, on their own time, about their disapproval of slavery ...and getting fired for doing so?
Shouldn't become and entertainer where your opinion can negatively affect a business's image. He signed a contract and he broke it and now he is fired. Pretty straight forward...
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Old 04-25-2016, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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Really? How did he KNOW he was going to get fired for saying men should use the men's bathroom? His tweet used no slurs, expressed no violence or harassment, doesn't affect sports in any way, and expressed the biological fact of anatomy! Have you posted anything on CD that you know your job would fire you for if they knew it was you? Maybe your boss is a Schilling support and would like to fire you for this post. Difference of opinion is no justification for firing.
His tweet also included a meme, which those at ESPN interpreted as Schillings own impression of a typical trans women. He actually tried to deny he posted the meme. Right or wrong it was the meme that got him fired on top of the fact he was warned about posting negative political statements after his comparing muslim to nazi statements.
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Old 04-25-2016, 11:26 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Originally Posted by mjtinmemphis View Post
What does the subject have to do with race?

What has Sharpton said that was racist?

Curt was free to make a comment knowing the nature of it could get him fired and chose to do it anyway. He needs to get over himself and take responsibility for his post. Men don't open mouth amd say things they know could get them in trouble and then get angry when they loose their job.
really?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXeHzXakS_Q



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ltjowC37AM
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Old 04-25-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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His tweet also included a meme, which those at ESPN interpreted as Schillings own impression of a typical trans women. He actually tried to deny he posted the meme. Right or wrong it was the meme that got him fired on top of the fact he was warned about posting negative political statements after his comparing muslim to nazi statements.
It's pretty straight forward. Most major companies don't have the resources to monitor all their employees but a company like ESPN is different where all their announcers and commentators have Twitter and other social media accounts linked to ESPN.
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Old 04-25-2016, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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It's pretty straight forward. Most major companies don't have the resources to monitor all their employees but a company like ESPN is different where all their announcers and commentators have Twitter and other social media accounts linked to ESPN.
Plus he called a trans sports blogger who responded to his post a clown.
Curt Schilling called this trans sports blogger a "clown." This is how it made her feel. - Outsports
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Old 04-25-2016, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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What I really can't stand is the double standards and hypocrisy in regards to saying offensive things and getting fired. That's why I said Schilling was a victim of the "politically correct thought police".
It wasn't that he said something offensive, it's that he said something offensive targeted to the wrong group or person!

Kenny Mayne also works at ESPN, tweeted this a few years back and there was no outrage, he wasn't fired and it's 10x worse than what Schilling tweeted...


"almost rammed car with palin bumper sticker. with intent.. held up..coulda been kids in car."
https://twitter.com/kenny_mayne/stat...76974363852800

"ESPN, Mayne's employer, has not released anything official concerning his message. But would you even expect them to?"
The Sports Rocker: In Case You Missed Kenny Mayne's Dig at Sarah Palin



So, let's just STOP pretending this is about tolerance and civility. It isn't!
If you are a member of the "wrong" political ideology or the wrong group, you won't see much tolerance or civility from the politically correct.
Your double standards point is a legitimate question. But what I'm wondering is who gets to make the decisions. Some things to consider:

1. Should Curt Schilling be allowed to write anything on his own personal social media without pushback from his employer?

2. Should this freedom in (1) apply to everyone? What positions are acceptable for there to be pushback from their employers?

3. Who gets to decide what is offensive? Does it depend on the job that one holds? Does it depend on how things are phrased? For example, stating that you believe transgender people should use bathrooms that correspond to their biological sex is different than posting a cartoon that equates MTF transgender people to men dressing up as women to violate them (I would find the second statement offensive.)

4. Is it okay for an employer to be inherently biased in determining what they find offensive? Is it okay for them to take a liberal or conservative bent?

I think these are all questions we need to consider before simply crying political correctness run amok.
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