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There is a lot of rural areas in our country and nest of people who never leave their neighborhood. Yea really. money is very tight $20 for a drivers license/ID and never have a car. Here in Orlando the tax n DL places have combined. The wait it miserable unless make an appt. I drive, but be a real pain if I have to go there, sometimes it's in another town- nothing local.
So all these people who never voted because of no interest or not wanting to be selected to be icked for jury duty, suddenly are being deprived????
Sad commentary that a motivated voter cannot, in the 4 or 2 years between elections, get a free voter id.
Where is the democrat bus rounding up all those folks for a trip to get an id? the effort and cash spent on lawsuits would be better spent and produce more voters if free rides for voter id were offerred.
Cherry pick some isolated case of a hermit and claim it represents millions of voters, all of whom would vote the straight line dem ticket of course.
We are overrun with illegal aliens and all the visa runaways and refugees unaccounted for, along with dead people and snowbirds. Do you think for an instant that voting is the only activity that is free from fraud. Logic in this case trumps weak and biased statistics.
Requiring poor people to pay for an ID is equal to a "poll tax" and as such, it does take that right away.
Hey, if these states are willing to offer free picture IDs to residents, I'm fine with the requirement.
Let's be honest, we all know these requirements have nothing to do with voter fraud and are all about disenfranchisement.
Look at Texas.
Their law allowed for concealed carry permits to be used as identification, but not college IDs. Explain to me how that is not disenfranchisement.
Why would we ever want to prevent college students from using their student ID to vote? Could it be because many of them won't vote for the people making the law?
And while you are at it, please show me where voter fraud has been committed by people using college IDs and never by someone using a concealed carry permit.
My friend from S Africa has a student id. Do we allow her to vote?
.Hey, if these states are willing to offer free picture IDs to residents, I'm fine with the requirement.
Which states that require an ID don't have a way to vote without it via mail or a free alternative? The last thing I read said they all do.
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.Let's be honest, we all know these requirements have nothing to do with voter fraud and are all about disenfranchisement.
Let's be honest, everybody has the ability to vote, and an ID doesn't change that. Having an ID only stops fraud.
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Originally Posted by Knox Harrington
.Look at Texas.
Their law allowed for concealed carry permits to be used as identification, but not college IDs. Explain to me how that is not disenfranchisement.
I used to make my own college ID to get the student discount at the movies.
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.Why would we ever want to prevent college students from using their student ID to vote? Could it be because many of them won't vote for the people making the law?
No, it's because IDs from colleges aren't official and a foreigner's college ID is no different than a citizens college ID.
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.And while you are at it, please show me where voter fraud has been committed by people using college IDs and never by someone using a concealed carry permit.
Show me I was speeding sometime in the last year. Just because I wasn't caught doesn't mean I didn't speed practically every day.
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No election has even been lost because of voter fraud. So what's the real reason for an ID
You don't know that.
If Texas didn't require an ID, I could illegally vote dozens of times without ever being caught. Nobody would ever know.
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Seriously? You think thousands of people or more committed voter fraud to rig an election. It's up to you to tell me though since you want everyone to have an ID.
An ID requirement won't stop anybody who wants to vote from voting. That's just a fact.
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If your middle name was spelled wrong on your birth certificate, you could still get your 'gun permit', but in many states that would keep you from getting a voter ID. THAT is the problem, if ID's were free, easy to get and made accommodations for people who don't have a birth certificate or their divorce papers from 50 years ago this would not be an issue.
These states already have a process the only problem was they couldn't remove a certain demographic from the scrolls.
The powers of the federal government are enumerated according to strict constitutionalists. This should be left up to the state. No federal law should either require or disallow a ID requirement.
A Texas handgun license is issued by the Department of Public Safety, the same department that issues identification or licenses to drive. I assume they require the same paperwork (birth certificate and proof of residency). To get a student ID, you have to register for college. They accept foreign students and those here illegally. It's not proof of eligibility for anything but the college.
This is true - it's also true that a student can use their home address/ID to vote in one place and their student ID to vote in another place. Helps to explain why college campuses are so popular with Leftists for their Campaign Rallies and registration drives. Double Dipping
I read Eric Holders lawsuit against the Texas Voter ID - 1st item on his list of complaints was the Student ID.
This is true - it's also true that a student can use their home address/ID to vote in one place and their student ID to vote in another place. Helps to explain why college campuses are so popular with Leftists for their Campaign Rallies and registration drives. Double Dipping
I read Eric Holders lawsuit against the Texas Voter ID - 1st item on his list of complaints was the Student ID.
If that is true it should be easy to prove but they have no statistics to support that contention.
The powers of the federal government are enumerated according to strict constitutionalists. This should be left up to the state. No federal law should either require or disallow a ID requirement.
It is left up to the states as long as they don't discriminate. It would be better to have federal standards rather than the patchwork we have today.
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