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the population is growing to fast, any co2 reduction will be negated by over population.
I think the focus on co2 is way over blown!!!! restoring desolated land would be a wiser investment in the long run and would suck up a lot of the excess man made co2..
good vid here on restoring desolated land.. but even this would be negated over the long run if the population keeps expanding..
That is the point- CO2 helps restore "desolated land" by increasing plant life. We have already seen a marked "greening" of the planet with higher CO2 levels over the last 50 years.
1. More CO2- more plant life
2. More plant life- more food
3. More plants- more oxygen
4. More plants- lower CO2
I guess the AGW cult hates food, plants, and oxygen. It is not surprising, as it is similar to the "death cult" of liberalism.
To help the planet, we need HIGHER, not lower, CO2 levels.
Ah, a litmus test by warmers to charge deniers with ignorance!
most of the country can't recognize a photo of the vice president let alone even know what the letters C O 2 represent.
Baffle the opponents with "disconnected elements of data disguised as science" to validate your position is not how data is to be used. Then tell them we have to pass it to find out what is in it.
Data collection has to be without bias.
Data requires interpretation.
To lay out random numbers and then ask a lay person to interpret it, and then recoil in horror when they can't, is the stuff of government propganda with an ideological agenda or other nefarious intent.
1. "Warming has just begun"- yet there has been no further warming for 20 years.
2. You say that CO2 caused oceans to rise 100ft and temps to increase 11 degree. We are at those CO2 levels. So why are not the oceans 100ft higher and temps 11 degrees warmer now?
3. Yes, sea levels do change. Perhaps, just perhaps, it has nothing to do with CO2. Did that ever occur to you? That is the problem with the AGW cult- you have ONE ANSWER (which is CO2) for everything and completely disregard everything else.
Your CO2 contention is a statistical error which occurs when multiple possible factors may be contributing to "climate change". The ill educated will look at a "one to one" comparison of temps and CO2, using a paired "t test" and will conclude (wrongfully so), that CO2 causes temp increases.
a. The statistical evaluation that needs to be done is an ANOVA with a Neuman-Keuls correction for multiple variables. This gives a true measure of the individual influence of ONE FACTOR in a sea of variables. However, the average CO2 cult member has no knowledge whatsover of science or statistics to appreciate this little problem.
b. There has been no direct correlation with CO2 and temps in the past. CO2 levels have been much higher with colder temps and vice versa. This "inconvenient truth" is always ignored by your cult.
4. It was warmer for several hundred years during the Roman Empire. This is like the average liberal, when faced with Obama's repeated failures, saying that "he just needs a little more time".
Good grief....No correlation between CO2 and global temperatures? Really?
Arguing with you like arguing with a brick....Every one of your talking points has been explained or refuted countless times, yet you continue to repeat them like some kind of robot....
Whatever it is, we need to change. It's not just what we put into the atmosphere that's scary, it's what the earth does with that extra heat. There are billions of tons of CO2 trapped in arctic tundra, ice sheets and glaciers that will be released once that part of the world warms up. Humanity will probably survive, but the catastrophes, ocean rise, a greenhouse effect that'll last 1000 years even if we were to stop all emissions, rapid weather instability, crop failure, subtropical areas could end up resembling the Sahara....it won't be a picnic for anyone.
Somebody swallowed the garbage the AGW soothsayers have been promoting.
Arguing with you like arguing with a brick....Every one of your talking points has been explained or refuted countless times, yet you continue to repeat them like some kind of robot....
YES- NO CAUSATIVE CORRELATION!. CO2 and temps are linked, but increases in CO2 are caused by INCREASE TEMPS, not the other way around. This is shown throughout global history. Again, the oceans have far greater amounts of CO2 than the atmosphere- when heated, the CO2 is released.
YES- NO CAUSATIVE CORRELATION!. CO2 and temps are linked, but increases in CO2 are caused by INCREASE TEMPS, not the other way around. This is shown throughout global history. Again, the oceans have far greater amounts of CO2 than the atmosphere- when heated, the CO2 is released.
Arguing with you like arguing with a brick....Every one of your talking points has been explained or refuted countless times, yet you continue to repeat them like some kind of robot....
That is rich. I don't understand science? So the degrees I have were incorrectly awarded and all of my publications in peer reviewed journals are just wrong? Gee......... I guess I should have skipped all of the years of education and just waited until "youtube" came about. Are you kidding?
Those with the least amount of scientific knowledge and training presume expertise. That is "The Dunning-Kruger Effect". You have no scientific training, degrees, or publications, yet are "explaining" science to me? Don't you realize how absurd that appears?
ALL of the AGW cult, when presented with information which refutes the cult, simply dismiss that information by saying "you are ignorant" or "you don't understand science".
As noted above, CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION. That is what I was trying to explain to you (yet when you have no scientific or statistical training, it is tough for you to understand).
To eliminate the error of CORRELATION=CAUSATION, one does not use a paired student's "t test". One uses an ANOVA with correction for multiple variables through a Neuman-Keuls correction. That way, one understands that my buying my morning coffee did not cause the eruption of a volvano in Hawaii this morning. They are correlated, but the coffee consumption did not cause the volcano.
CO2 levels rise AFTER TEMP INCREASES, not the other way around.
Really? Do sparks cause fires, or do fires cause sparks?
Excess greenhouse gases cause the temperatures to increase and the oceans to store CO2.....Eventually the oceans warm (It takes a long time to heat all that water) as the oceans heat up the stored CO2 is released (cold water holds more CO2 than warm water) This is basic science and explains the lag....
At the moment the oceans are storing vast quantities of CO2, which will eventually be the main contributer of future warming.....Personally I think even if we stop emitting CO2, we are beyond the tipping point, the only question is how much will it warm.
That is the point- CO2 helps restore "desolated land" by increasing plant life. We have already seen a marked "greening" of the planet with higher CO2 levels over the last 50 years.
1. More CO2- more plant life
2. More plant life- more food
3. More plants- more oxygen
4. More plants- lower CO2
I guess the AGW cult hates food, plants, and oxygen. It is not surprising, as it is similar to the "death cult" of liberalism.
To help the planet, we need HIGHER, not lower, CO2 levels.
Lolololol. So we need to pollute the planet to help the plants?
The cult of deniers have gone off their meds! They think we are in danger of emitting too little CO2!!!!
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