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Conservative by definition means sticking to tried and tested and being risk averse. This goes against the grain for most engineering, science and IT concepts. Silicon Valleys thrives on innovation and risk taking. Of course this doesn't mean that conservatives can't be engineers or Scientists... Many are. It just means that science and engineering is dominated by progressives and they are the ones who bring about most of the innovation in America.
No, that doesn't follow at all. There is no correlation between the "risks" an engineer might make to develop a new idea and his thoughts on social policy.
Let's take one of the riskiest professions, such as test pilot. Do you think that makes them all social progressives? US Marines pride themselves on taking risks, breaking conventions ("We don't plan, we improvise")...are they all social progressives?
Actually, I dispute your basic concept that innovation is necessarily opposed to risk aversion. The manned space program was innovative, yet they engineered as much risk out of the operations as possible. Most engineers do--their concept may be innovative, yet they do all they can to make sure it does not fail.
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Yes - yes, that's exactly what I suggest, when someone doesn't have anything intelligent to say. As in this case.
The man was scribbling on a piece of paper, for god's sake. That woman is a mentally unbalanced, xenophobic, racist cretin. Welcome to Donald Trump's America.
Wow. You walked right into "if you see something say something"....you know, the current president.
Wow. You walked right into "if you see something say something"....you know, the current president.
Kinda makes you look like a butt now doesn't it?
Maybe you're racist?
So if you see someone non-white scribbling numbers on paper, the first conclusion should be that they are doing something wrong? I just don't understand what could have been so terrifying about numbers on paper..
Edit: Seeing something suspicious is different than the ability to see at all..
So if you see someone non-white scribbling numbers on paper, the first conclusion should be that they are doing something wrong? I just don't understand what could have been so terrifying about numbers on paper..
Edit: Seeing something suspicious is different than the ability to see at all..
Non white? Us "whities" like that Italian dude on the plane come in many different colors; not all of us are pasty skin with light hair and eyes. lol
No, that doesn't follow at all. There is no correlation between the "risks" an engineer might make to develop a new idea and his thoughts on social policy.
Let's take one of the riskiest professions, such as test pilot. Do you think that makes them all social progressives? US Marines pride themselves on taking risks, breaking conventions ("We don't plan, we improvise")...are they all social progressives?
Actually, I dispute your basic concept that innovation is necessarily opposed to risk aversion. The manned space program was innovative, yet they engineered as much risk out of the operations as possible. Most engineers do--their concept may be innovative, yet they do all they can to make sure it does not fail.
The social and economic basis of our military services is the closest thing to none market socialism as anything is in this nation. The military does not use the free market to decide how to fight its battles or determine its physical needs. In the military you do not disobey legal orders from a superior officer commissioned of not.
The social and economic basis of our military services is the closest thing to none market socialism as anything is in this nation. The military does not use the free market to decide how to fight its battles or determine its physical needs.
Which has zero to do with the exceedingly incredible amount of risk-taking necessary in combat, and yet soldiers may still be social conservatives.
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In the military you do not disobey legal orders from a superior officer commissioned of not.
You might.
Moreover, it still takes extreme risks to obey orders in combat. Just because you have orders to take a hill doesn't mean you can. As they say, "No operations plan ever survived contact with the enemy."
No, that doesn't follow at all. There is no correlation between the "risks" an engineer might make to develop a new idea and his thoughts on social policy.
Let's take one of the riskiest professions, such as test pilot. Do you think that makes them all social progressives? US Marines pride themselves on taking risks, breaking conventions ("We don't plan, we improvise")...are they all social progressives?
Actually, I dispute your basic concept that innovation is necessarily opposed to risk aversion. The manned space program was innovative, yet they engineered as much risk out of the operations as possible. Most engineers do--their concept may be innovative, yet they do all they can to make sure it does not fail.
Risk taking means being open minded enough to try new things and bring innovation to fruition. It doesn't mean deploying untested new things into production/ real life systems. The conservative mindset will tend to stick to the tried and tested for as long as possible. The army systems and DARPA fund a lot of innovative research... The internet is just one example.
Conservative by definition means sticking to tried and tested and being risk averse. This goes against the grain for most engineering, science and IT concepts. Silicon Valleys thrives on innovation and risk taking. Of course this doesn't mean that conservatives can't be engineers or Scientists... Many are. It just means that science and engineering is dominated by progressives and they are the ones who bring about most of the innovation in America.
Being innovative does not mean supporting leftist agenda, which is connected with "liberalism" in America.
Wow. You walked right into "if you see something say something"....you know, the current president.
Kinda makes you look like a butt now doesn't it?
Maybe you're racist?
No matter how many times I read this post, I'm at a loss to understand why you think it makes any sense at all. Were you somehow under the impression that I am Barack Obama? What on earth does he have to do with any of this? And how does race enter into it? Is this some inside joke or something?
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