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I have no problem with people keeping their definitions and fantasies to themselves. I briefly had a college roommate who referred to himself as Torquemada, for example. It's when the rest of us are expected to make accommodations which infringe on our own, and out culture's, definitions of standards and norms, especially in an area such as matrimony, that I draw the line.
You may do as you wish. Feel free, for example, to propose everlasting devotion to a cucumber sandwich and call it a commitment. I will continue to operate within the context of what marriage actually means, and state my opinions accordingly.
you're exactly right.. that is why the issue is being challenged.. because the culture has and is changing along with social norms in regards to relationships, and many states do not have clear definitions of marriage between a man and a woman...
with social change comes legislative change... if you want to stop gay marriage.. stop watching will and grace and tell your city council to outlaw gay bars and popculture...
I understand where you're coming from on the issue.. but while it might have a bit of substance still left today... the tide is turning more and more with those social standards changing...and what you claim to be the norm now..will not be in the future.. and then what is the case against allowing gays to marry?
It's when the rest of us are expected to make accommodations which infringe on our own, and out culture's, definitions of standards and norms, especially in an area such as matrimony, that I draw the line.
I'm sorry, but there is no "infringement" on your own ability to marry. That is a weak argument.
If it's a lesbian couple, they can copulate through artificial insemination. A gay couple can use a female friend who is willing to copulate to bear their child.
But, again, not everyone gets married for children.
I'm sorry, but there is no "infringement" on your own ability to marry. That is a weak argument.
he is stating that gay marriage is infringing on his cultural and social beliefs.. and making him adopt a culture that accepts it...
It is a weak argument.. because there are many things in our culture that people choose not to accept or have anything to do with..
Its just a silly argument all around.. and it really is rooted in only a few things... religion, bigotry, or traditionalism...
yeledaf does not expound much on where he gets his personal views on the issue... which is fine.. so for the sake of argument.. I'm going to assume he's just a traditionalist... saying something should be so.. because it has always been.. is not a logical reason... upon those beliefs we could make a case for slavery, or a number of other issues that have been a part of human culture and civilization for thousands of years...
I have no problem with people keeping their definitions and fantasies to themselves. I briefly had a college roommate who referred to himself as Torquemada, for example. It's when the rest of us are expected to make accommodations which infringe on our own, and out culture's, definitions of standards and norms, especially in an area such as matrimony, that I draw the line.
You may do as you wish. Feel free, for example, to propose everlasting devotion to a cucumber sandwich and call it a commitment. I will continue to operate within the context of what marriage actually means, and state my opinions accordingly.
Sounds like you see gays as second-class citizens. Straights do not have to make ANY "accomodations" - they wouldn't even be aware of gay people marrying, unless they happen to know them.
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