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Old 05-11-2016, 01:31 PM
 
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That's a pretty generic statement.

Public four-year college Private four-year college
Tuition and fees $8,655 $29,056
Room, board, books, etc. $13,606 $14,233
Total cost $22,261 $43,289
Net price (after scholarships, grants, aid) $5,750 $15,680


The choice to go to public or private school is a choice - and obviously financial affordability should be a factor when making that decision. But looking at the public school column...again, depending on what state - I suppose ~90k is a normal mortgage, but in some areas, that's a fraction of a mortgage.

90k with no "discounts" though is high, I'll give you that...but that's what happen when collusion occurs between big business, college administration, and government.
Do you live in the Northeast? Public universities still cost over $20,000 per year...and that's just tuition.
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Old 05-11-2016, 01:31 PM
 
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Nothing is free. I am sorry.
A woman after my own heart. If you say "taxation is theft"...i'm proposing...sight unseen.
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Old 05-11-2016, 01:46 PM
 
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Originally Posted by NewGuy2016 View Post
That's a pretty generic statement.

Public four-year college Private four-year college
Tuition and fees $8,655 $29,056
Room, board, books, etc. $13,606 $14,233
Total cost $22,261 $43,289
Net price (after scholarships, grants, aid) $5,750 $15,680

The choice to go to public or private school is a choice - and obviously financial affordability should be a factor when making that decision. But looking at the public school column...again, depending on what state - I suppose ~90k is a normal mortgage, but in some areas, that's a fraction of a mortgage.

90k with no "discounts" though is high, I'll give you that...but that's what happen when collusion occurs between big business, college administration, and government.
I say full time community college is between $2K to $3K where I live. For public 4 year between $4K to $6k that is just for a semester.

I still don't get why people are against paying taxes for people to have a free college education. You already pay taxes for people to pay for a private college education what's the difference?
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Old 05-11-2016, 01:48 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Community college is nearly free here in California. But with $15 minimum wage, it probably will go up.
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Old 05-11-2016, 01:51 PM
 
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I say full time community college is between $2K to $3K where I live. For public 4 year between $4K to $6k that is just for a semester.

I still don't get why people are against paying taxes for people to have a free college education. You already pay taxes for people to pay for a private college education what's the difference?
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Old 05-11-2016, 01:53 PM
 
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Nothing is free. I am sorry.
Yes, but there is no reason for college to be as expensive as it is.
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Old 05-11-2016, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Yes, but there is no reason for college to be as expensive as it is.
It's expensive because of government subsidies. Because schools can now rely on students getting loans, they can pretty much charge anything they want. This means the government is giving them incentives to raise prices, instead of having them compete in the market. The thing is to reduce the amount of loans and stop having the government do this. What this has done has created another bubble, this time based on education. It's going to be a HUGE bust when it does bust. I'm looking forward to it, because we need to give education the free market. It's time for some radical changes to education, and the free market has proven it can solve this problem and keep prices competitive.
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Old 05-11-2016, 02:39 PM
 
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I mentioned immigration and I mentioned automation; I did not mention outsourcing: America's Biggest Companies Continue To Move Factories Offshore And Eliminate Thousands of American Jobs. Sanders has no plans to help American workers - especially with his establishment views on immigration. You are trying to paint the picture of a bright future; many will disagree. I believe that is why Trump is so popular.
I'm not sure why you are bringing Sanders and Trump into the conversation, as it is off topic. But for the record Sanders and Trump have some similarities with respect to job creation and reversing harmful trade policies.

None of this however negates my point that by not spending huge amounts on student loans Americans will boost the economy by buying other things with that money. The same way I'm sure you would say cutting taxes generates spending. It's the same concept. Increase disposable income amongst working people and the economy gets stronger because they buy stuff.
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Old 05-11-2016, 02:51 PM
 
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Public universities should be low-cost, maybe charge a few thousand dollars per year in total. However, admissions should be very strict. The students must score high in some standardized exam, at least. Less qualified students can go to private colleges, if they can afford it. Some top private colleges can take top students too, if they run well.

This is actually the model in Japan and South Korea.
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Old 05-11-2016, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Most "free" services or products have little value....
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