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Of course I do. But it's only "tuition free" for the kids... someone else is paying for it. And when those kids become adults THEY will pay for it. Someone ALWAYS pays for it... there is no such thing a genuinely FREE education. It doesn't exist.
Oh good, so you do understand when I say tuition free that I am not saying free education. For a second there, I thought you didn't understand that.
It should be; but I believe that even that is paid for by the taxpayers. I could be wrong; it has been some time since I researched the subject. It is logical that people can learn at their own pace and when they actually have time to learn. Unfortunately I think many of our young go away to college for all the wrong reasons. I just don't think this Country needs deeper debt so some can party.
I'm not sure how one can argue that free=no value in terms of education when k-12 is free. Once upon a time, you could earn a living with a HS diploma. Now that's not possible so why can't community college or trade school also be free now that times have changed? Just my thought on the matter. Although I could also tolerate more affordable tuition.
A high school education is very limited in scope.
Where I went you had either a General diploma or an Academic diploma.
The Academic was supposed to PREPARE your for college.
College is supposed to do more.
Do have ant idea how many different majors there are in college?
You CANNOT compare the 2 options in high school to the hundreds of options in college, UNLESS you want to do college as you do high school and offer only 2 "general" majors for free.
I agree with the general proposition that those whom wish to go to college (and have the grades for it) but cannot afford it, should be helped out financially. As Benjamin Franklin said "An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest".
I am appalled at how expensive college has gotten. When I went to Texas Tech School of Law in the early 1980s, I paid $5.00 per semester hour (as a Texas resident). Indeed, if I wished to go to medical school, the price was the same.
So, $5.00 per semester hour, times 90 total hours for a J.D.: $450.00. I probably spent another $500.00 on those blasted books (I recall that my Estate Law book was a mind-boggling $50!), and a few hundred in 'fees'.
Now, I see that the 'tuition and fees' for one year of law school is $23,000.00. The undergraduate program is almost $18,000.00, again per year.
While my parents paid for the tuition, I had to pay for other items of daily living, which I was able to do by working part-time at minimum wage ($3.35 per hour, in 1982). I was able to pay for my room (a single room rented in a woman's house, I think $50 per month), my food, adult beverages, etc., by such work. I doubt I could do it again at $7.25 per hour, but that is another subject.
Indeed, if an Angel came down today and said "By magic you are 18 years old again, Legalsea, and you may again enjoy the carefree days of college and law school", I would shoot said Angel, and the pick the angel's pockets for any celestial gold to help defray the hideous cost.
I agree with the general proposition that those whom wish to go to college (and have the grades for it) but cannot afford it, should be helped out financially. As Benjamin Franklin said "An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest".
I am appalled at how expensive college has gotten. When I went to Texas Tech School of Law in the early 1980s, I paid $5.00 per semester hour (as a Texas resident). Indeed, if I wished to go to medical school, the price was the same.
So, $5.00 per semester hour, times 90 total hours for a J.D.: $450.00. I probably spent another $500.00 on those blasted books (I recall that my Estate Law book was a mind-boggling $50!), and a few hundred in 'fees'.
Now, I see that the 'tuition and fees' for one year of law school is $23,000.00. The undergraduate program is almost $18,000.00, again per year.
While my parents paid for the tuition, I had to pay for other items of daily living, which I was able to do by working part-time at minimum wage ($3.35 per hour, in 1982). I was able to pay for my room (a single room rented in a woman's house, I think $50 per month), my food, adult beverages, etc., by such work. I doubt I could do it again at $7.25 per hour, but that is another subject.
Indeed, if an Angel came down today and said "By magic you are 18 years old again, Legalsea, and you may again enjoy the carefree days of college and law school", I would shoot said Angel, and the pick the angel's pockets for any celestial gold to help defray the hideous cost.
Interesting story. I suspect the price has skyrocketed because the feds subsidize so much of the cost these days. Much more than in the past.
I think an additional question that should be asked when contemplating the matter, is should Wall Street speculators be paying a much lower tax rate than nurses, teachers, and plumbers? By taxing speculation at a rate close to or equal to that paid by average Americans we could fund free public college, as has been illustrated by Sanders. I'm not sure that's what should be done with the money, but I do find it a hard pill to swallow that most Americans are busting their butts to take care of their families and Wall Street speculators are paying a lower tax rate than them, and using the millions they make to fund politicians to keep from raising their tax rates to levels the rest of us pay.
"I think an additional question that should be asked when contemplating the matter, is should Wall Street speculators be paying a much lower tax rate than nurses, teachers, and plumbers?"
IMO, talking "rates" is a way to disguise the truth.
Lets' try to make as simple as possible.
Every year the fed takes in X amount of "income" taxes.
It is NOT a "rate" it IS ACTUAL DOLLARS.
Let's say the fed takes in a total $100 dollars.
The "rich" portion of that $100 is $90 dollars.
Many want to claim they are not paying their "fair" share" because they use "rates" instead of actual dollars.
To them paying 90% of the fed take is NOT enough.
And has been discusses at nauseam, it is NOT haw much the fed takes in, it is how much they SPEND.
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